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Mildly Infuriating

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Yes I am aware that they're somehow supposed to reduce plastic waste because the cap can't get lost ... unless you cut it off, of course.

Yes I am also aware that there are people with disabilities (shaky hands, weak grip, etc.) who are thankful for these and actually like the design. Good for them, and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way.

But personally, I hate these things with all the "first world problems" rage I can muster and go out of my way to rip / cut / twist them off on every single bottle I buy. I don't like having the bottle cap directly in my face while drinking, or slipping in the way of the flow whenever I just want to pour milk, and on more than one occasion, I've actually cut my finger OR lip on these little sh*ts (not the same type as in the picture, but baldy-made longer "bands" that leave little plastic spikes on the cap and/or band).

No idea whether I should post this in the "unpopular opinion" section instead or if other people think the same, but to me, "mildly infuriating" describes them perfectly.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The place I lived before this would only recycle the bottle, not the cap… made this mildly infuriating as I had to do extra work every time I wanted to recycle them. Glad I can just toss the whole thing in the recycle bin now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It doesn't work that way.

The bottle itself is usually made of PET which is very recyclable. The cap is made of polypropylene for its strength to prevent the bottle from leaking.

You cannot recycle PET and PP together - you need pure resin for production. So this captive closure actually hinders recycling.

Personally, I've never seen many caps lying around without their bottle and think the EU solved a non-existent issue.

[–] Randelung 3 points 4 months ago

That's what I thought, too. I'm sure it's a problem SOMEWHERE, but did we just get slapped with a global solution to a locally inexistent issue?

I've heard that there's a measurable effect, though, even in Europe, so I guess it's okay. The extent of that effect? Probably comparable to non-plastic straws. Meaning almost none, just political.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Right, the previous place required them to be removed because they’re different plastics. I assume the new one just automatically cuts the top of the bottle off and discards it… probably because the people using the service couldn’t be counted on to follow directions anyway. In fact that was the reason they actually gave up on city wide recycling. Too many people trying to throw non-recyclable items in the bin (like whole ladders and baby seats and greasy pizza boxes and all sorts of stuff.) They had a line literally catch fire because someone threw a lithium ion battery in the bin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure how they're doing it but in Germany all those PET bottles go into a centrally-managed recycling stream (because 25ct deposit) and I bet they have some technical norms around that kind of stuff. The bottles are all crushed to save space, incl. the caps, which at least in the case of the water bottle next to me is HDPE. Judging by the haptics the label is PET, a flimsy banderole glued (fused?) on at the seam.

Either they're doing it chemically by breaking up the PET and then fishing out the rest from the soup (is that possible?) or what would also work I guess is shredding and mechanical sorting -- the label is flimsy, the bottle always transparent, the cap never transparent. Such stuff.