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When you compare Biden to Trump vs. the effects on the Palestinians, were Trump president again, he would not just help the Israelis exterminate the Palestinians, but encourage them to do so quickly- as he's already told Bibi to "finish it". So your dichotomy is more than a bit disingenuous .

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[–] givesomefucks 60 points 2 days ago (48 children)

If our only standard is not a Republican, then everytime Republicans lower their standards, they lower the only other option's standards too.

It's not fucking sustainable.

[–] Clent 2 points 2 days ago (7 children)

This does not logically follow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Clent 1 points 2 days ago

This is a proposed political idea. It doesn't make it true and doesn't make the statement that are options are reduced unless we all allow it to be true.

If the Republican decide to burn all gay people, one cannot claim to be a democrat because they simply want to gas them all.

We decide where the line is drawn. Ignore the propaganda that tells us we have no control over the process. That apathy is how the window shifts, not because the republicans shift.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The Overton window is a way of framing change in the baseline ideology of a population. It is hardly a “law” or dogma of any kind. On its own it’s meaningless, you can’t just couch an argument in “…because of the Overton window.” It’s also got its valid detractors like broken window theory and such.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, I wasn't making an argument that anything is "because of the Overton window", the OP of this thread is literally describing how the Overton window works. You, and that other person not liking or understanding it, doesn't change that, nor the fact that what op described is demonstrably happening in politics right in front of your fucking eyes, and only "doesn't follow logic" if you're aggressively wilfully ignorant.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yikes I think you’re a little too riled up for this conversation. Have a good one dude.

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