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[–] blazera 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But no one here's promoting Trump. I know youre seeing it as intrinsically Biden vs Trump, so detracting from Biden is the same as bolstering Trump. The goal is to beat Trump. The means to do that is everyone rallies behind one candidate. The problem is right now, Bidens not beating Trump, his age and health combined with the tragedy in Gaza is preventing too many people from rallying behind him. He has the most people rallying behind him of all current opponents to Trump, but not enough.

The timeline where we beat Trump is Biden withdraws from the race and endorses another candidate. Remove Biden as an option and everyone rallying behind him purely because he has the largest support against Trump is forced to shift to another candidate, and we can push for the people that werent rallying behind Biden due to age and Gaza to also rally behind the new candidate, and hopefully then have enough people rallying behind one candidate to beat Trump.

[–] VoterFrog -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The meme is about Biden vs Trump. It's not about people who just think Biden is too old and want to replace him. You're arguing for a position that isn't being attacked by the post.

[–] blazera 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s not about people who just think Biden is too old and want to replace him.

you dont replace him

Yes it specifically is

[–] VoterFrog 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don't replace him with the Joker. You know, additional words have meaning. Now if your argument is that the Democrats need to find their own Joker, I guess then you're being targeted by this meme.

[–] blazera 1 points 5 months ago

The meme is about Biden vs Trump.

You dont even care what youre arguing about anymore

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's what the primary was for.

[–] blazera 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

we didnt really have one. several states, like mine, straight up did not have a single candidate other than Biden on the primary ballots, none of the candidates besides Biden were on a majority of states ballots

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And I agree that that's fucked - I didn't want him either. But, that's still where we are. It's like when Gov. Newsom announced the deadline for public comments on PG&E, the day of. Not ok but the government and political systems are moving forward and it's hop on the train or leave democracy behind.

It's not fair. Neither is the world. It's our job to try to make it more fair and just. That means acting strategically and supporting these that will cause less harm to vulnerable populations and provide opportunities for positive changes, rather than use government power to actively and intentionally make lives worse. Not the time for tantrums and letting perfect be the enemy of good (or at the least, not sinking into theofascism).

[–] blazera 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You jumped into the conversation at a weird spot. Not replying to my explanation of why Biden is a bad choice even if your only goal is to beat Trump, but replying to me correcting someone about the context of the meme.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Thank you for clarifying!