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Edit: Interesting, didn’t expect this post to be controversial. Here’s some of my reasoning:

Democrats became gradually more progressive in their border policy between 2000-2016. In the mid-2000s, many prominent Democrats in Congress supported significant spending on security fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border and were critical of “sanctuary cities.” By contrast, during the Trump administration, Democrats were largely united against most of Trump's immigration and border security initiatives, including opposing funding for a proposed border wall. The evolution in Democratic views on immigration is clear when comparing the party’s 2012 platform, which promoted a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants but with certain conditions, to the 2016 platform, which removed all caveats on the path to citizenship source.

I feel the early Trump era provided vindication that allowed some real expression of what equity looks like in border policy. (That said, I do readily admit my “chad” symbolism is a bit strong; rather I think it’s just that the DNC allowed more space for these voices at the time.)

However, all this progress has recently been lost since the election of the current incumbent, as Democrats have leaned back into border security, implicitly admitting that the conservative framing of the issue is a valid concern.

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[–] distantsounds 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The DNC needs to implode. They are so incompetent and out of touch that we are forced to deal with the rise of fascism again.

[–] ZILtoid1991 7 points 3 days ago

Similar thing happened in my country, Hungary. We have a de facto one party system, where outsiders are allowed to have an opinion, nothing much else. Sometimes they have suspiciously too many ties to Fidesz, like Munkáspárt 2006 and Mi Hazánk Mozgalom. Corporations not being subservient to Fidesz are being harassed by law enforcement, the tax agency, and the media agency, only a few left as a way to show not everyone is with Fidesz, but often at the cost of them not getting any subsidies, etc. Meanwhile, Fidesz has clever ways to subvert even its own laws. They limit campaign spendings, but have at least 2 GONGOs pumping out ads for them.

Good luck, maybe the RNC won't forbid anyone left of Mussolini from owning guns, or maybe you can just wait until the US implodes and Canada will run to your help instead of Russia and/or China.

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