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Biden pardons thousands of US veterans convicted under law banning gay sex
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this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2024
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Only question is: those people who (for example) went to West Point and got kicked out after it was discovered they were gay and then had to pay back their education fees. (Which can be very large) do they get their money back?
No. This is clemency for prosecution of criminal misconduct and (potential) reinstatement of "honorable discharge" status. If you got fucked financially by a military that lured you in and then crapped you back out again, you'll have to get in line for Biden's debt forgiveness plan.
Also, should note that we changed the law in 2013 and then sat on this for four full years until Obama turned the keys over to Trump. Then retook the White House and waited an additional four years to grant clemency.
Very frustrating to see Presidents implement these policies out of desperation in the middle of a tight election season rather than rolling them out ASAP.
I'm sure there were a few more pressing matters to deal with. I mean, our country was run by a vengeful wanna be dictator man child for four years. The fact he even got to this is great. It's not like a republikkklown would have done anything with it, besides, what votes is this going to help with? The only people that are going to appreciate this are already voting for Biden.
That's always the excuse. And then you lose by 40,000 votes because your candidate reeks of sleeze and entitlement. What could Obama, Biden, and Hilary have done differently back in 2016?
How about doing the right thing?
What could they have done differently??? They could have fought the Russian influence, that would have put an end to this shit before it started. The democrats didn't vote because it was laughable tRump would win. Now they know how serious it is because tRump is a man child, and will vote.
My response was to yours about doing this now for the votes. My point stands, it makes zero difference on votes. You respond like a bot/troll. Which is it?
How much more money do we need to spend on the NSA and CIA to say we did that?
Democrats turned out in droves for Obama in 2008, despite the fact that McCain was one of the weakest candidates of my lifetime. The decline in 2012 was in direct response to a federal government that had thrown in the towel and a party that only knew how to compromise with the most greedy and cynical conservatives in their own party. But by 2016, they'd hit their functional floor. Hillary only lost 100,000 votes relative to Obama, four years earlier.
Do you think more democrats would have turned out against a John Kasich or Macro Rubio because they were less laughable? Do you think democrats would have turned out against a Low Energy Jeb campaign?
No. The problem democrats had in 2016 was an enormous surge in Republican turnout. 2M more Republicans climbed aboard the Trump train than Mitt Romney had. Four years later, Trump had accumulated an extra 12M votes. He crested Obama's 2008 total by 9M votes. Trump won by tapping into the American fascist Id.
So I'm either a formulaic mechanical pre-generated response or a slick, sarcastic human being trying to get your goat?
Real "my enemy is both weak and strong" hours. No wonder they call it Blue MAGA.
That's a lot of words to say you're a troll.