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Russian bots with a Kremlin disinformation network published 120,000 fake anti-Ukraine quotes falsely attributed to celebrities, including Jennifer Aniston and Scarlett Johansson, in one day, the independent Russian media outlet Agentsvo reported June 15.

Quotes appeared over celebrity photos, displaying messages calling to end aid to Ukraine and describing European collapse.

The images were published between June 14-15 by the Kremlin disinformation network Dvoynyk, a representative of the Bot Blocker project told Agentsvo. The fake quotes have since garnered over 500,000 views.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

CIA: we have overthrown well over two dozen governments sometimes for reasons we aren't even clear about. A noticeable fraction of the human race lives under the regimes we have installed.

NSA: we proved your conspiracy theorist uncle right and can read the emails and text messages of over a billion people.

And neither one can stop a government agency of under 100 people, who live in a country that can't make a CPU over 8 bits, from shit posting on the internet? Not fucking possible.

Check this out: the guy who runs the largest pro-kremlin misinformation website in the world lives in NJ

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ivandjiiski

And yet all these powerful three letter agencies can do nothing?

We know Russia has been funding the NRA and members of the GOP. We know they have blackmailed them. We know they ran stuff through Epstein and have videos of them rapping kids. And yet despite all this, despite the power of tens of billions of dollars a year, despite being only answerable to literal god not a single act can be done to stop trolling? They can overthrow Pakistan but not block an IP!?

[–] disguy_ovahea 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They haven’t committed a crime posting on privately owned social media sites. The celebrity first needs to file a complaint.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What does that have to do with what I said?

[–] disguy_ovahea 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

And neither one can stop a government agency of under 100 people, who live in a country that can't make a CPU over 8 bits, from shit posting on the internet? Not fucking possible.

How do you expect the FBI stops people from creating fake accounts and sharing false information? Those are not crimes. Fraudulent misrepresentation is a crime, but the misrepresented person first needs to report it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 0 points 6 months ago

Knock on the door

Guy opens door

FBI agent: hey we know Putin is sending you money. Stop posting stuff on the internet supporting him or we will plant cocaine and child porn on you, then tell the local police. This is of course if we are in a good mood. If we aren't in a good mood you will be kidnapped and thrown out of a helicopter into the ocean at night.

Guy: shocked silence

FBI agent: almost forgot. Here is a folder containing pictures of all your family members, with their addresses on the back. Bet you didn't know that your favorite aunt was a tax cheat. Hope no one calls the IRS and let's them know. And your nephew Johnny, who just got an internship. How do you think his new employer would react to me calling them and telling them that we are opening an investigation into him?

These are shitty evil people. Who don't even come close to following basic rules of decency. The fact that they continue to take no action against what Russia is doing hints very strongly that they aren't opposed to it. You can't be powerful enough to wage a secret war in Cambodia that kills millions and so weak you can't intimidate a guy living openly in the US with a lifestyle of tens of millions a year.

Here is another fun fact for you: Monica Lewinsky only agreed to testify after a single member of the Justice department threatened to have her mother thrown in jail. We aren't talking the entire resources of the federal government here, we are talking about one lawyer.

[–] Lost_My_Mind -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How do you expect the FBI stop people from creating accounts and sharing false information? That’s not a crime.

Hmmmmmm.........perhaps it's about time that it becomes illegal.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The FBI does not create laws. Congress does. The same congress that is being currently run by people who are pro-Russia.

So I'm thinking there's some sort of Putin-related reason why that won't happen.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While technically correct... it appears that you are missing the point here and more broadly misunderstanding how the system actually works.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's not especially enlightening. I'm not sure why you're telling me I'm missing the point and broadly misunderstanding something and then are so vague about whatever you think I'm not understanding.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

people within the state act in their own interest so when they want something to happen rules are just means to do it, the same way these same rules are means not to do it.

you take a position that these orgs function in good faith and cooperate among each other for greater benefit.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea what any of that has to do with the three facts that congress passes laws, the House is controlled by Republicans, and Republicans are sympathetic to Russia.

Also, do not put words in my mouth.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FBI has the tools to do whatever it wants done as exemplified by their history.

If they are not doing it, it is not a priority for them

You are spouting some generic civics slop as an authoritative take on the issue.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Cool, I was responding to someone who said:

Hmmmmmm…perhaps it’s about time that it becomes illegal.

And explaining why that law would not be passed.

I'm sorry that you think telling someone how laws are passed in response to them saying something should be illegal is "generic civics slop," but that still has nothing to do with whatever the hell you're talking about.

So I'm thinking the person with the misunderstanding here is you since you're not talking about making something illegal or why it won't happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Spooks work in mysterious ways, dear. And we pay for it :)

[–] mlg 2 points 6 months ago

Considering the recent report on the Pentagon running an anti vax bot spam in the Phillipines, it's probably that they don't want to help nullify social media spam in case they ever need to use it (again).