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I hate when the far right says, "Who's gonna pay for it?!" Referring to any program that would help the poor or needy... What would Jesus do? Asshole.
There's a bill in the Canadian senate right now for UBI, and yeah, this is what the conservatives are saying.
For anyone interested in the bill: https://www.ubiworks.ca/guaranteed-livable-basic-income
Jesus would make sure they are tested for drugs before curing their leprosy.
how do we know they don't want to stay leprous ?
This is going to be my go-to response from now on.
WWJD.A
Jesus would make a dupping glitch with food
We already see what happens with you duplicate glitch books/knowledge/art
Magic?
Did Jesus ever teach anyone to fish? I remember the story where he just gave people fish. 🤔
So it seems Jesus is only good with feeding people for a day, instead of the rest of their lives. 😌
we need 365 Jesuses
Good answer, and maybe. But you can be sure the magic would help, and even without magic he would help.
Yes, the magic of an impromptu potluck
Literally the whole point of this "miracle" was to show how if everyone pools resources, there's more than enough to go around
But that didn't fit the message the Romans were going for, so they magic'd it up
The only food mentioned is the little kid fishes and bread. If it were more, pretty sure they'd mention it as well.
The whole point was that they were far away from the nearest place to buy food and money for feeding about 15k people would exceed even a yearly salary
Literally there was not enough food in the whole group for a "potluck"
Jesus made a speech, they passed around the baskets his group had for the meal, and suddenly they more than enough
Do you think they had grocery stores? That they catered events? That they even had a salary, and carried money instead of food?
I don't even know where all these numbers and money focus are coming from, but they weren't in the text
Everyone shared their lunch... That was the whole thing. They shared the food they were initially unwilling to share, and when everyone was full (including those who came with nothing) they had baskets of leftovers
It's funny, the obvious answer is "rich people who have magnitudes more money", but plenty of poor stupid people respond "BuT tHeY aLrEaDy PaY mOrE" as if someone with 100000x as much money as you should get off paying maybe pays 100 or 1000x when you're paying 25% and they're paying 5 or 10% of take home.
When they're asking genuinely, I don't mind giving a genuine reply. But when it becomes clear they're doing the online equivalent of filibustering? "You, you specifically are going to pay for it, and I hope it makes you go bankrupt."
The right: "but who's gonna pay for it?!"
Anyone with a minimal understanding of how economics work: "uhhhh... The central bank can literally create dollars at will..."
You do understand that printing money devaluates the worth of everyone elses money correct?
Literally everyone would be paying for it. More than anyone, the poor, as taxes hit them the hardest
I did specify "anyone with a minimal understanding of how economic work". If you don't understand that inflation is mostly not due to creation of currency, then you don't understand basic economics. The EU has been creating from 2010 to 2020 absolutely immense amounts of currency with little to no effect on inflation.
Inflation appeared in 2022 as a consequence of bottlenecks in industry and supply, and rising costs of energy, and corporate increasing prices more than inflation to increase profits by bootstrapping to the inflation wave. This is scientific consensus in the field of economics.
The whole neoliberal trope of "creating more money devalues the currency" is patently false if you look at the historical evidence of the last century. Markets don't automatically say "oh god the central bank created more currency, let's proportionally rise the prices!". And currency can be created in such ways that the supply of goods and services increases together with money creation as in, for example, the hiring of public workers. If you hire 1 million unemployed people with newly created money and you put them to work, you're increasing the supply of goods and services by as much as 1 million workers can produce.
So yeah, the problem is that you don't have a minimal understanding of economics if you believe that inflation is primarily a monetary issue.
Inflation in Goods and services in the eurozone have increased about 39% since the 2000s
Most of that has been precisely in the latest years were they have been creating so much currency
But yeah keep saying it won't affect prices and maybe it will become true
The only saving grace is that most of it is in government bonds, not as a circulation. I shudder to think what would happen if the 17 trillions eur inside the ECB find their way out
Im sorry but feel free to look at the M2 or M3 monetary aggregates for the Eurozone overtime. You may find that you're absolutely wrong.
Or anyone with an ounce of empathy. I'd gladly double my taxes if it meant I didn't have to watch people literally dig through the trash for food, sleep on sidewalks "illegally", or die of sepsis because they couldn't afford to see a doctor in time.
Oh no, I can only take three vacations a year instead of four, boo hoo me.