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No I think philosophy is cool actually
I'm being facetious with this, but what philosophers do you like?
Nietzsche is such a wonderful read, because he has the soul of a poet and doesn't give a damn if he's being consistent.
Kierkegaard is harder to parse, but very fascinating.
Marcus Aurelius legit just wants you to be a good human being.
Yamamato Tsunetomo wants you to kill people and don't afraid of anything.
Musonius Rufus is remarkably modern in his thinking for someone of the first century AD.
Be the man Marcus Aurelius thinks you can be
Little Footnote for the unawares, Nietzsche was NOT a nazi philosopher, a close relative of his converted his writings to nazi ideology and claimed it was him.
He was actually pretty religious, though, when he wrote "God is Dead" he was actually writing a warning to athiests and unaligned that a world without a central pillar of morality was coming. Ironically, uneducated religious people have been misconstruing his message ever since thinking it was an argument against them instead of for them, lmfao.
His sister, yeah. Nietzsche himself, when in an insane asylum at the end of his life, ordered all anti-semites to be shot, which, as a late 19th century German man, is pretty fucking based. He had moments of what we would see as anti-semitism himself, but generally of odd and occasional stereotyping ("All Jews become mawkish when they moralize") rather than a distinct and exclusionary racial-prejudice of the type we're used to seeing from antisemites.
No, he was definitely an atheist.
This is somewhat correct - when Nietzsche writes of the death of God, he is speaking of the absence of a central morality in a world that is rapidly casting off its former superstitions. The thing is that Nietzsche does not see that alone as a good thing - with the death of God, the old ways of thinking persist, but now with a hollowness that renders their previous purpose superfluous - like a trained animal working a pellet dispenser long after it has broke. The death of God, thus, will lead to a period of true nihilism, in which many who are unable to cope with the world drown in purposelessness- knowingly or unknowingly. But it is also an opportunity - for a revaluation of morality, for men of great spirit to found new ways without the chains of the old dragging them down - the Overman (or Overmen).
Nietzsche is fond of intentional self-contradiction, in addition to having his ideals develop considerably over the course of his works, so he's not always the easiest author to pin down, but the death of God as both warning and opportunity is pretty widely accepted.
Well I think Karl Marx agrees on some way. But when you are BFFs with Engels and enjoy Fox Hunts as a pass time, are you eating the rich or just saying everyone should eat like the rich?
Camus! Just enjoy everything! Rebel against meaning!
One that I really enjoyed during my pretentious phase was the father of modern philosophy himself, Immanuel Kant. He wrote a lot about ethics and aesthetics but the crux of his work boils down to the idea that space and time are just "forms of intuition" that structure our experience and are just appearances we can comprehend. The true nature of things as they are in themselves is unknowable to us.
As someone who has always considered themselves very rational and more of an agnostic than an atheist, his ideas really clicked with me.
But have you asked yourself why?
EXACTLY! You see my point!?