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The state is responsible for the education of children. This absolutely falls within their scope.
A state wide mono-culture based on an unsolved cultural issue isn't "education" it's inherently heavy handed.
It also actively harms schools that may be trying to teach students how to use cell phones productively in their lives to help them solve problems rather than pretending as though they don't exist.
How it's handled in countries such as Norway or The Netherlands is that those kinds of classes are exempt from the ban. It's not a hard issue to solve.
Part of that is teaching people how to control their impulses and stay on task.
Your workspace isn't going to have you hang your phone up on the wall somewhere when you come into work and have someone tell you "now is the time to use your phone."
College isn't going to do it either.
We also could take some cues that maybe this isn't all as serious as we make it out to be. My high school back in the 2010s gave us a ton of busy work, insisted on making it effectively mandatory if you wanted a decent grade, didn't let people go to the bathroom without asking permission and using a sign out sheet, insisted every second of every lesson was crucial, and was very strict about not pulling out your cell phone basically ever (kids still snuck texts here and there).
I see more merits for small children, but in general I'm strongly in favor of radical changes to how we approach education ... because learning should be fun but is not for so many people ... and we forget so much of what we've been "taught" anyways.
So that's in this bill right?
Right?
~~Beats me, I don't live in the US.~~
I stand corrected. It doesn't include that as far as we know, on account of the bill not existing yet, not even in draft form. If you don't mind, I'm going to ignore everything else you say now.
It's not. This is boomer reactionary garbage. Right up there with video games causing crime.
Sure thing, bud. So far all the studies disagree with you, though.
Unless you're talking about treating smart phones like cigarettes it's not going to work the way you think it is though.
But no instead she's going to try and make parents buy another phone to send to school with their kids and do what with 800 dollar smart phones? What's the enforcement mechanism?
Are you ready for all the stories of the government confiscating expensive hardware from kids?
And for what gain? The second the kids are out of school the smart phones will come out again. So the only advantage is inside the school itself and we already have policies that deal with that.
This ban, especially being placed into state law, doesn't have anywhere good to go and is just going to be the modern DARE program, teaching kids the rules don't matter.
If you were serious, your country is in deep shit.
You can't get/keep many jobs without one here, so it would make sense that being able to have/use one should be part of the education for said jobs.
I haven't a job in ~7+ years that didn't require 2 factor applications on personal devices to be able to access company resources such as email, elevated security accounts, VPN connections, etc.
Ahh yes, hostile partial quoting to make my country seem unintelligent; welcome to my block list.