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[–] almar_quigley 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Your points are all conjecture and I don’t think they are valid. If he said some shit to instigate and she threw something at him that doesn’t give him carte Blanche to break her face.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, my points are valid, not conjecture.

Your are making the point that she didn't deserve to get hit because she assaulted him.

No, it very obviously didn't hurt him but if someone threw a drink at me, I would respond with like treatment or worse. This is the real world, let's treat it like it is and not beat around the bush about it.

As I mentioned before though, it's possible (and likely) that he started the whole thing though. Without more context though we don't know. Either way, if she assaulted him, and he started it, they are both acting stupid, plain and simple.

[–] eatthecake 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's possible you might be a violent type. I cannot imagine breaking someone's nose over something that 'obviously didn't hurt'.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's possible, but fortunately I'm not.

It doesn't matter if it hurt or not. The point is, if someone were to assault me I would defend myself because I would immediately be put into a position where I need to consider what this person is about to do.

Inb4 "but it didn't hurt, it's just liquid", that isn't the point. Should it be ok for people to just throw liquid on you? Ahh so just go tell the cops so they can do nothing or if you're even less fortunate that you're already dry at that point and that person is long gone.

So what is the right solution here? I seriously doubt you would just walk away if someone walked up to you and threw a cup of whatever in your face.

[–] eatthecake 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Inb4 “but it didn’t hurt, it’s just liquid”, that isn’t the point. Should it be ok for people to just throw liquid on you?

Kinda, yeah. It's pretty funny when people throw milkshakes at politicians. Getting wet should not result in violence or police in my opinion, provided the liquid is harmless. It's also somethimg that happens by accident very easily and people overreacting to that and getting violent is a bigger problem than a ruined shirt. Not that i throw liquid on people, i just think people need to calm down, it's not an attempt on your life. I would certainly yell but throwing punches seems like an unnecessary escalation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do agree with you on the accidental thing 100%. Accidents happen, but that's different than what is being discussed.

Also, yeah it may seem funny if it happens to some high profile person, but put yourself on the receiving end of a direct intentional thing like that and you aren't going to be overly happy about it. You definitely understand that.

I grew up in some not so great places, got bullied a lot as a kid. I don't bully people as a result but I am a bit more defensive and would be quick to toss a jab and subsequent more if I felt the need was there.

All in all, I do feel that I want to be 100% clear that I'm not defending the guy, I don't know the situation, dude obviously had an advantage and in the brief bit that we see it does kinda seem like they were both instigating the situation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I mean if my friend goes into a dark alley piss drunk and ends up getting beat up and robbed. I'm pissed and I'm feeling sorry for my friend and trying to help them. But also like c'mon what the fuck were you thinking.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You have no idea whats thrown at you in the moment, and you think its okay to just let someone do that to you? Agreed, punching someone in the face sounds like an overreaction, but I know my reaction to having shit thrown at me would be to immediately make sure it doesn't happen again.

[–] HessiaNerd 6 points 2 weeks ago

Are we talking like literally human feces or like a glass of water?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So if someone throws a drink at you you immediately think you just got covered in diarrhea?

Let's talk about that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

Right after we talk about your need to make poor assumptions.