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[–] MisterNeon 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Aztecs didn't value gold all that much. If they put through the effort to smuggle anything it would have been cacao seeds or quetzal feathers.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yep. Cacao seeds were used like currency.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Currency to buy what? To buy gold of course, which was a famous Aztec staple. They were very fond of it. Never heard the expressions "I hunger for gold", "as delicious as a gold ingot", "this cake must be made of gold"? All proofs of the sacred place of gold in the Aztec kitchen. It is known, look it up on YouTube.

[–] MisterNeon 8 points 4 months ago

You had me going for a second.

[–] lemmyman 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Got any utube videos about it?

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 4 months ago

I'm sorry, I only have a uarticle about it.

https://bigthink.com/sponsored/aztec-mesoamerican-chocolate-money/

As that article says, the Aztecs eventually realized that money that grew on trees was not the best idea.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Above everything, they valued human sacrifice, mainly from other nearby nations, which they would regularly raid for people to sacrifice. The Aztecs had every opportunity to just conquer these other, weaker nations, and specifically didn't so that they could farm them for human sacrifices.

When the conquistadors came over looking for gold, these weaker nations pointed to the Aztecs. Yeah, the Aztecs had gold, but the more important thing was getting the Europeans to point their boom sticks at the Aztecs, which they did.

After having subjugated the Aztecs, the Europeans were like, "Okay, maybe we can slow down here and turn these people into a vassal state," but those weaker tribes were like "Fuck that, the Aztecs are weak enough now for us to destroy them," and they took their revenge by completely annihilating the Aztecs.

The Aztecs were massive assholes, pretty much had it coming when it came to being obliterated, and the final blow was handed to them not by European conquerors, but by the enemies they'd made right next door.

[–] MisterNeon 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think the nation/tribe that were the Spanish collaborators you're referring to was Tlaxcala which were the target of habitual Flower Wars for captuered warrior sacrifice. The pleas of the Tenochca, the residents of Tenochtitlan, fell on deaf ears to the only other major power in the region the Purépecha Empire.

While Aztecs valued human sacrifice to a great extent it was due to the benefits it's bestowed in Mixtec-Pueblo culture. It was a source of not only spiritual reverence, but also military and economic superiority. It also had non domestic function as a diplomatic tool to visiting nobles and bounty haulers / tax collectors. Not to mention it served as a form of community entertainment in a similar fashion to European public executions.

As far as saying Europeans tried to slow down to make the Americas a vassal state is a misconception. Disease wiped out an apocalyptic amount of people. Following the fall of Tenochtitlan small pox ravaged the Valley of Mexico and all along the Gulf Coast. This nearly wiped out all infrastructure and Spain tried to subjugate the rest. Hilariously trying to impose a 30% tax written in Spanish and using that as a legal justification for military actions.