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The new standards are part of a broad push to get more Americans into electric vehicles, and reduce the environmental cost of driving.

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[–] Ballistic_86 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Texas has those problems because they refuse to be a part of the national grid. EV charging/demand has little effect on a national sized grid. A fully electric water heater draws more power for long periods of time than any EV I am aware of. And those are everywhere in the US.

3-phase 240v service is already available in most modern homes and def available to most apartment complexes that have to supply power for hundreds of apartments.

[–] Hugin 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

240v is available in most homes but three phase is very rare for residential areas unless they are right next to an industrial zone.

Also a standard 4K heater runs about 3 hours a day and is usually the biggest power draw in a house depending on ac. That is about twice the draw of a class 1 home charger but the charger is probably being used for at least 6 hours for a daily driver. So it's realistic to almost double a houses daily use with an EV.

EVs are great but we do need to upgrade the infrastructure to handle them. It's still a lot less infrastructure then we use to distribute gasoline.

[–] UltraMagnus0001 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not against EVs, because I would love to have a Hyundai N. and can't wait for the EV revolution.

Now lets say the water heater defense is logical. Lets say we double the water heater load on the grid then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Over the span of a few decades? Considering our capacity and throughout is increasing, I think that would be just fine.

[–] ikidd 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is no residential 3-phase anywhere that I've ever seen in North America. Maybe some place in Europe has it but not to my knowledge. I have seen people put it into something like an acreage or farm at great expense, but the idea that a house will have 3-phase by default is silly.

Maybe an apartment complex would have a 480 or 600V 3-phase high-leg supply, and I guess they could run that to the parking areas.

[–] Malfeasant 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My uncle had 3-phase to his house for a heavy duty workshop, so it is possible, but I believe he had to pay a lot up front for it, significantly more than a single phase 240V hookup to a new house would have been.

[–] Crashumbc 1 points 5 months ago

Correct, like anything else if you have money you can have something custom done.

But no standard built house in the US has 3 phase power.