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Today Senate Republicans blocked a measure that would have created a federal right to contraception access
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No, this is based on decades of observing Democrats. They're great at introducing legislation that most Americans would love when they know they can't pass it, and then pretending their hands are tied or forgetting about it entirely when they can pass it.
Examples: Revisiting the public option. DACA. Codifying Roe.
If you want to lie and say I'm telling people to not vote for Democrats, come right out and say it instead of throwing it behind a paragraph of cowardly equivocation.
But we're never allowed to demand better because that's [paragraph of veiled accusations].
This part I actually agree with. Obama did a couple of good things but on the whole the whole Clinton / Pelosi axis is a pile of shit. Of course, that's not a good argument for letting Hitler come to power, but you would actually have a point if you weren't applying this to the guy that did:
Etc etc and so on. Biden's actually this radical forward departure from the pretty uninspiring Democratic norm. But sure, the system is still broken; if you're advocating for improving it above Biden that sounds like a great idea. I was just reacting to the absolutely false implication that these particular Democrats are only pretending to make progress. Or, have I got it wrong, were you not trying to say that?
Do you think people should vote for the Democrats? Not "allowed to vote for whoever you want" or whatever -- do you think it's a good idea for them to? What do you think they should be doing to make progress in the country, generally speaking?
Absolutely I think you should demand better. I just don't see that as incompatible with choosing the best available option while you're working for a better option than the ones currently on the table.
I wasn't applying it to Biden. I was applying it to Senate Democrats in particular and Democrats more broadly. I have other criticisms for Biden, and have made it clear multiple times that I approve of how he handled student loans.
I was saying that because I believe it to be true, based on my previous observations. I don't think they're gonna pick it back up when they have the numbers to pass it.
Yes. Until we have a less shitty option, that remains my position. It was my position last time you asked too.
There is no "best" available option. Democrats are the current least bad option, and I have never advocated voting any other way. Not that you care. You've heard this from me before and continue to pretend otherwise. You know my position and yet you continue to act as though my position is contrary to what you know it to be.
I will continue to demand better, and you'll keep making veiled accusations.
Oh shit, I think maybe I did an unfairness then. I have you in my little mental list of people who talk shit on Biden relentlessly but it sounds like maybe I should not -- yeah, general unenthusiasm for Senate Democrats I can pretty fully agree with. Makes sense.
I for-real do not remember this. I probably wouldn't have written what I did if I had -- yeah, everything you're saying here makes perfect sense.
100% fair and I apologize. Yeah, demanding better sounds great.