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More efficient manufacturing, falling battery costs and intense competition are lowering sticker prices for battery-powered models to within striking distance of gasoline cars.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about cost, I was talking about the ability to travel a comparable range on a charge. Does battery maintenance keep it at 95% of the original range at 15 years?

Less maintenance and cheaper charging is actually a selling point for electric cars, and I am not disagreeing with that. But a used 15 year old car that has a far lower range than new and will most likely need a new expensive battery replacment within a few years is not the same as a 15 year old car that performs like new and won't need a massive repair in the near future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No more than ICEs stay at 95% of the original range at 15 years.

Your argument is based on accepting a hypothetical best case scenario for a random ICE to the worst case scenario for a random EV.

"A used 15-year-old ICE car with a cracked head gasket isn't the same compared to an electric car that's managed to retain near its full capacity".

No, of course it isn't.

EVs are already cheaper over time, are already comparable at MSRP, and their range and efficiency isn't static like ICE cars.

Range anxiety is real, but it boils down to anxiety; range is still there and only improving.

Shoot, the aptera is going to recharge passively from solar 40 miles a day, and they have thousand mile ranges on a charge.

In fuel costs alone, an EV owner is saving about $1,000 a year.

After a decade, you can get that extra 20% capacity back with a new battery for cheaper than you would have been spending on your ICE car that cannot be refurbished in the same way.

Just adds up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No more than ICEs stay at 95% of the original range at 15 years.

Your argument is based on accepting a hypothetical best case scenario for a random ICE to the worst case scenario for a random EV.

Based on my last two cars apparently being hypothetical best case scenarios, sure.

I look forward to electric cars range continuing to improve, but as long as I live somewhere that range actually matters half of the year I'll take the current ranges as they work in reality into consideration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Naturally.

Most people appreciate innovation after it becomes common rather than when it becomes practical.

If your 15-year-old cars have the same MPG and have never needed a repair, yes, your cars are performing to a degree that has never been recorded.