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Extend success of UK sugar tax to cakes, biscuits and chocolate, experts urge
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2024
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Thing is the sugar tax seems to have done fuck all in changing the prices so sugar free options are cheaper. Whenever I look in the supermarket, Fanta and Fanta zero for example are the same price, which is just far more expensive than it used to be.
So tell me how the sugar tax has made it healthier? I'm just gonna buy the full fat one if it costs the same.
It has not changed the price of sugar free. Because the compqnies have drematically reduced the sugar in other sodas.
IE you can nonlonger buy full sugar coke etc. So no tax is actually payable.
Ir is definitely improved diets. But to give you an idea of how much the sugar is reduced.
The first few years after the change. Type 1 diabetics like me ended up in ER.
Because we had spent years ,(decades in my case) turning to fullvsugar drinks to avoid dangerous lows in hot summers.
Now coke etc has only a small amount more sugar then diet coke.
Many of us only realised this as we came to in an ambulance on the way to ER.
It was such an issue that the NHS now prescribes us very high sugar drinks in small plastic ( 100ml) bottles we can carry for emergencies.
We all also now know to stick to fruit juice if we need to buy something in an emergency. As that is not covered by the rule so has tons of added sugar.
Today I learned
Fruit juice is the drink with the most amount of sugar
What the fuck fuck is wrong with humanity????
As a Brazilian the best thing to have on a hot summer day ( over 40C) is a fruit juice where by default it's made of real fresh fruit made right in front of your tires and has no sugar added. And of course most of the water is frozen.
And we beat ourselves because the imperialist Anglo Countries rule the world. Fuck off.
LOL I have temped in a UK orange juice factory. Believe me your sanity depends on what you dont know.
As for fruit juice and sugar. My comment makes things look more all juice then I intended.
We tend to sell a few different forms. Pure Juice tends to come in cardboard (plastic coated) tubs of a litre or more. Pure is literal in the name. So no added sugar. It also need to be refrigerated and only lasts weeks. But honestly nattural juice has a sugar called fructos that works pretty well on low blood sugar. Way higher in actual carb grams then modern sodas like coke. But way less then the old pre tax amount.
We also have Juices made from concentrated juice with water and sugar added. During the concentration process it is heated to remove most of the water. Then shipped to factories. Here purified boiled water ands sugar is added.
This leads to a juice that can sit on a shelf without refrigeration for years. Both will work when grabbed in a hurry. But as the reconstituted from concentrate juices have from 8 to 12g of sugar carbs per 100 ml you tend to need less. Making it actually better to carry on a summer day. Old coke full sugar was about the same.
Modern cola is about 4 to 5g per 100ml. Although I have just discovered Coke has started selling Coke Original Taste Brand with 10.6g per 100ml. So looks like they have decided people will pay a bit more after all.
In sainsbury's it £5.20 for 8 330ml cans where Diet coke is £4.99 so the tax is far from huge.
You're right! It is absolutely wild how our supermarkets get away with nakedly price gouging to be honest, I sort of don't understand how you could sleep at night knowing that you're just increasing prices for the sake of it lol
They sleep really well, on big piles of our money.
They dont. Manufacturers do not actually pay the tax. Instead sodas lowered the sigar level to below 6g per 100ml. From 10 to 12 before.
So full coke in the UK has no more tax then diet.
To confirm this. I just discovered coke is now selling a classic taste version. With 10.6g sugar per 100ml.
And sainsbury charges 21p more for 8 cans then diet coke.
If you look at pepsi full. It is 4.6g now rather then >10g.
I don't think it was ever intended to.
The manufacturers don't want the same flavour drink at two different prices, so they reduced the amount of sugar in the full fat variety, making it more... semi-skimmed. So people who still drink it are consuming less sugar which for most people (see the post about the impact on diabetics) is healthier. However, not consuming food or drink with added sugar is the healthiest option.