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[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Complaining about things over a two hour lunch break *with a glass of wine

Sorted that for you

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But works with wine and without lunch as well.

[–] Valmond 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It has to be in a parisian restaurant otherwise its only sparkly debate.

[–] Leviathan 3 points 7 months ago
[–] toynbee 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Leviathan 2 points 7 months ago

It's France, that's non-negotiable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people reckon the small glass of wine is necessary to help digest the ridiculously fatty food without absorbing the fat

See the French Paradox

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

As far as I know there isn't any scenario where drinking wine is healthy and I say that as a french guy. Alcool being healthy or good overall for your health is a myth no matter the amount. You might gain some on some aspect but overall it will never be better than good food and a glass of water.

Yes, this is boring but science is pretty clear about it and we obviously had this debate many times here.

Just because we make a lot of quality wine and good food doesn't make everything healthy.

I think a long time ago kids were getting a bit of wine at school lunch so we are not an example here. We have a wine lobby that tried very hard to reinforce the idea that a "little glass" of wine is good and that without excess it's fine. Truthfully no amount of alcool is healthy. I still drink a beer here and there but alcool will never be healthy and I know it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'd say that, in reference to small amounts, there's a difference between "bad for you" and "won't actually harm you" but I'm not going to argue with your point

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd put it as "you won't actually perceive the damage"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Exactly. Even drinking a ml of alcool will hurt you it's just that the damage is so small you can't measure it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Nah, alcohol is literally poison.

The drunkenness you feel is just your body reacting to being poisoned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Being a Group 1 carcinogen, let's analyze it with other carcinogens in the same group: is there such a thing as "won't actually harm you" amounts of asbestos? What about "won't actually harm you" exposure to ionizing radiation?

We don't know which DNA damage will turn into cancer, but each exposure to a group 1 carcinogen is another lotto ticket bought to see if you won cancer. You will never buy a lotto ticket that doesn't have a chance of winning.

ETA and then there's the non-cancer effects that just increase cardiac problems and stroke risk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It was not before 1956 that schools stopped giving wine to kids under 14.

1956 : Interdiction de l'alcool dans les cantines scolaires | L'oeil de l'INA

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Alcohol is bad for your body, but you don't care about it when you are drunk.