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[–] Nurse_Robot 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Isn't it also that sourcing the raw materials for the batteries results in a lot of pollution, and the charging is often provided by coal burning plants?

[–] AA5B 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No one burns coal anymore!

But seriously I saw one model by energy portfolio per US State, calculating how long you’d need to drive to make up for the additional emissions during construction

  • all had a threshold where the EV came out ahead, lifetime emissions
  • a couple states with cleaner power, had a threshold as low as two years typical driving, then it’s all gravy
  • West Virginia and Wyoming were the worst, with high reliance on coal for power generation. The threshold was 14 years, so an EV would still come out ahead if it lasted its expected lifetime (Teslas are supposedly good for 15 years, 250k miles before replacing battery)

WV and WY are heavy red, rural, sparsely populated states, so not a good scenario for EVs anyway. But there’s also a point there about how heavily polluting they are, how the efforts if like 379M to reduce our impact on the environment are sabotaged by less than 1M owned by coal companies

[–] Nurse_Robot 2 points 7 months ago

That's awesome information! Thanks for putting it all together in a comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

ofc its one, but that can be said about a lot of resources. the latter was already mentioned which is why i didnt mention it.

[–] shunir 1 points 7 months ago

Sure it is, but oil drilling also require electricity provided by same plants and isn't exactly clean either.

[–] masquenox -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t it also that sourcing the raw materials

This also leads to a shit-ton of attendant neocolonial shitfuckery - but nobody in the US really cares about that.

[–] Nurse_Robot 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't even understand that particular grouping of words

[–] masquenox 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Nurse_Robot 1 points 7 months ago