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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The only members I know that support them can also explain 4H to me. They're heavy into the training side and own cows.

I don't think any have. I'm not sure any bother going against cops - regardless of the situation. They have nothing to gain by going after pigs.

Same with Biden. Some (hopefully) might support eliminating those idiotic laws, but they can only lose on that. It'd be actively harmful considering the pure ignorance that flows out of his father's mouth when he talks about firearms.

We need a prominent pro-self defense rights group that's anti-cop and not specifically conservative. Granted, starting one sounds like a good way to starve.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would say that if the NRA could make a big stink about Kyle Rittenhouse, they certainly could have made a big stink about Philando Castile. A legal gun owner getting killed for doing what he was supposed to do, what the NRA advises doing, in that situation should be exactly who the NRA should be making a big stink about if they were sincere, which they are not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree they're not, but Rittenhouse wasn't in a shootout with cops. There have been some situations where white people either got killed by cops in fucky situations or killed cops in fucky situations. I highly doubt any of the gun rights groups touch those.

I can't remember their names (I know) but one was an older defense contractor. A crackhead stole his truck, got popped, then claimed the drugs in the truck were the truck owner's. Pigs being pigs, they raid the old man and shoot him dead.

Another one was a guy who was ratted on by a CI. Another raid happens and a cop kicks out his lower door panel and gets killed by the home owner.

These are both 10 or 15+ years ago. I'll try hunting them down. I'm sure Reason has them archived.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Philando Castile didn't get in any sort of situation with the cops that he shouldn't have gotten into. I highly recommend you read about his case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Philando_Castile

That article talks about the NRA's tepid response.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm familiar. Had a carry license. Told the cop. Followed orders. Cop got scurred and shot him.

The murderer is the cop.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should scroll down and see what the NRA had to say about the situation, since that's what I was talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be clear, I don't think they benefit saying anything that makes pigs look bad. Jumping through idiotic hoops to inhale cop dick is expected from the NRA.

Otherwise I'm confused about what I'm missing.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so what is the point of a gun owner advocacy group that doesn't advocate for gun owners?

Because that was what I was saying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I agree. The reality is most of them advocate for gun owners when the bad guys aren't cops. The NRA sucks money from real rights advocates to say moronic shit about video games causing gun violence.

I misunderstood your objection and that's on me for not clarifying.