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President Joe Biden is taking fresh steps to help keep gas prices from climbing. For Republicans to see this as “disgusting” and “disgraceful” is bizarre.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

A lot of people will be even poorer increasing the price of gas in Europe, most working class people cant switch to an EV just because,my family (myself included, but now i live in a big city where i dont need a car anymore) purchase usually 15+ year old cars, and there is no decent public transportation in that zone. I know you just want easy upvotes saying stupid things like that, but really, viewpoints like that are harmful towards the working class, if you want to facilitate the move towards EVs what you need is cheaper EVs, and tbh, fuck that bullshit and instead push toward better public transportation in rural areas instead of keeping the push in personal vehicles that are as wasteful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Ideally, you tax the hell out of fossil fuels then redistribute it to the poor. The rich and middle class cut their usage and/or switch to EVs and the poor can get by while viable alternatives to driving are implemented and EV prices come down.

[–] UltraMagnus0001 4 points 6 months ago

Also EV structures in the cities are not good because most people live in places with no garages or driveways. Better public transportation is the way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

viewpoints like that are harmful towards the working class

News flash: The working class in most of Europe is doing much better than the working class in the US. And that's with much higher gas prices and higher taxes.

They also drive more EVs and have a heck of a lot higher quality public transportation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hm so if the median working class as a whole in the EU is doing better than the working class of the USA its okay the fuck the working class of the rural zones in spain which as i said lack public transportation or access to expensive EVs? Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As someone who has lived in Europe for more than two decades, I can tell you that most rural zones in the EU do not lack public transportation. EVs become cheaper when it's the norm. Lmao

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Just lol, seriously, have you seen the state in the rural zones of spain? Do you think a train or a bus every two hours is going to let people get a job outside their town with less than 10k habitants? Even in my hometown with 40k+ habitants only has a single (1!) train an hour.

Most people from a working class in spain having the minimum salary which is 1100€ (thats if you have a full time job in a country with 27+% unemployment among the young) while you are paying in most zones already 700€+ rent which is more than 50% of your salary (if you even have a salary). I can assure you that no one even with the minimum salary if they have a salary and paying a rent of 700+ is going to be able to get credit to buy a 10-15k plus EV. Not even 5-8+k to get a really cheap second hand one. So please, before you speak to this level of bullshit read a bit or look at data at least, your situation or the little you have seen does not represent the reality.