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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm surprised the difference isn't much higher, but I guess there's a ton of shovelware on the Switch.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is much higher. Those are just the officially approved numbers. You can get a lot more games than that working though. Most will probably run out of the box anyway, or with just slight tinkering, assuming the performance of the Deck suffices of course. You may have to create custom control mappings though.

[–] Schmeckinger 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Slight tinkering and slight annoyances. Like some text is hard to read or unreadable, button/key prompts are wrong. Frame limiting being wonky, sound glitches. But all in all still amazing to be able to play your stuff on the go.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yup. I've just been purchasing games without the Verified tag now because I'll just be like: "yeah that seems like it'd work and it typically does".

I made the mistake of installing Stardew Valley on it for 1.6. Oof, I'm playing it everywhere. Very bad when you can't handle your addictions well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Some aren’t even that egregious. A game having a launcher, or requiring you to manually bring up the keyboard, for example, keeps it from being verified.

So Monster Hunter Rise, a game that works flawlessly, launched as “playable” because it required you to manually evoke the keyboard when typing your name in character creation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, a few examples from my own Deck include Rymdkapsel (works perfectly, not verified or marked as Chromebook Ready), Surviving Mars (playable, but not rated) and Turmoil (explicitly unsupported, but works fine).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter for how they're measuring. None of those games are marked as either Verified or Playable by Valve, so they're not included in these statistics, despite working fine on the Deck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's mouse and keyboard only though, not impossible but for someone who doesn't want to fiddle with Steam Input bindings it's a bit of a pain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which one of the three games I listed are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was talking about Turmoil, should've been more clear on that, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think their rating of unsupported is correct. It's pretty easy to play with the default configuration though (touchpad as mouse).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is true, a lot of games can be played easily with the WASD + Mouse keybinds. Not unusable by any means, but it can be frustrating for people who get thrown off by the on screen prompts corresponding differently than what their controls actually are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In cases like what you listed I believe they normally mark it as playable with a note that the button names might not align.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

respectfully, how have you not seen the infinite rivers of shovelware on steam since they stopped vetting the store ~10 years ago?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd be surprised if many of those are verified for steam deck?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah. They probably work fine on the deck too, but they can only verify so many games and those are low priority.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That seems to be the point being made by the person you replied to; the difference should be higher (in favor of the Steamdeck) because of the vast quantity available on Steam. The shovelware is precisely why it should be higher. I think they're expressing surprise that the Switch even comes within the range it does, hence bringing up Switch shovelware as a possible source for this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

ah, i see, you’re probably right

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Steam is the same way

[–] AngryCommieKender -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Shovelware? That's a new term for me..... Is that what they call the games made in Roblox and the like?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Shovelware means games that are really low quality that some studios spam to try and get any money with little effort. Like garbage free to play games on mobile.

[–] AngryCommieKender 2 points 1 month ago

Gotcha, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Also asset flips too (when you buy assets to make a game and slap them together with no effort and sell it as a game).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You know those cheap Disney ripoff movies? Like Finding Nemo comes out and then anyone with a copy of Blender and a few hundred bucks to spend on distribution starts selling "The Little Lost Fish?" The video game equivalent of that is called shovelware.