To be clear, I'm not trying to get into a man v bear debate here. But, like, a man could still kill you, right? Is that better than being eaten? I mean, I guess it's probably less likely. I'm no expert on bears or random forest men.

[–] Thcdenton 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Im betting on the fact that humans have baked in altruism. We want to help each other. As a kid I got stuck in the forrest with my dirt bike and a gnarly looking guy helped me get home with his truck. It was a scary experience and it was a risk. I think most people are basically good. Men just have the strength to act on it when they are bad people.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you've never been a woman, have you?

[–] Thcdenton 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No I haven't. But I have been sexually assaulted. I know from first hand experience how awful men can be. And I'd still pick a strange man over a bear to be stuck in the woods with. You can't reason with a bear. You cant plead for your life. It will pin you to the ground and eat you alive ass-first. I'd rather be raped and shot or strangled if it came to that. But you do you.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you've come sooooo close to understanding their point, and then just walked away going "nope, wimmin are wrong."

[–] Thcdenton 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey I'm just comparing outcomes. Is a person 'wrong' for comitting suicide? No. That's their call. If the prospect of choosing 'man' is so terrifying that they must bear, that is sad but it makes sense.

I'm a big ugly dude. I can tell I give most women the creeps. When I'm walking around my neightborhood, I cross to the opposite side of the street whenever I pass women. I literally go out of my way to communicate to women I'm not interested in hurting them.

Despite efforts like that, I've been wrongfully accused of sexual assault while working in a workers comp office. Getting grilled by an angry female detective was terrifying and humiliating. I could have gone on the list just because some idiot was mad about their case outcome.

I'm not saying "I'm just as scared of you as you are of me" But I'm fucking terrified of women. It sucks having to take this form. Does it suck as much as being a vulnerable women? Not my place to say.

Maybe I still don't get it. I dont know. But it seems like this man/bear exercise is inflammitory hyperbole designed to raise to awareness about how women feel about men - something I feel I've been made aware of by my own experiences.

If you still think I dont get it, feel free to spell it out for me. I'm just a big dumb guy after all.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 0 points 6 months ago

you're comparing outcomes without understanding that different outcomes impact different people in different ways.

[–] daltotron 2 points 6 months ago

But, like, a man could still kill you, right? Is that better than being eaten?

I mean generally being eaten entails entrails leaking out, whereas getting killed could entail any number of things. Neck snap, choked out, slit throat, whatever. I dunno if your average idiot man is gonna be as proficient of a killer as a bear, even if they happen to be a murderer or like, just evil, right, so, I dunno. Kind of a toss up. Me personally, I would rather not have my guts spilled out, ribcage crushed, spine snapped, bones gnawed on while I'm still conscious, slowly lose blood and lose consciousness over the course of 30 minutes to an hour. I mean I guess theoretically a man could do those things too, but I dunno many men that could. Maybe like, the mike tyson of 40 years ago?

I guess the argument I'm making hinges on the idea that humans are generally bad at killing in a physiological sense, and their need to kind of, up themselves in the game means that they tend to get filtered into a bunch of more painless and efficient approaches relative to the kind of uncaring cruelty of nature more generally. But then I dunno, humans also have a capacity for needless cruelty and torture, so I'd also be betting my chances that I don't get shafted and stuck with like, a super jacked serial killer that can torture me with their bare hands, which there's probably only like 2 or 3 of in the world. Maybe more if you include government contracted ones.