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Ocasio-Cortez endorses Biden's reelection campaign, sending a strong signal of Democratic unity
(www.independent.co.uk)
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wtf is happening. This is a - rep for AOC in my eyes. She realizes the fucker is real old right? Elect someone younger please.
Its not like she has a realistic alternative. What do you want, a split democrat ticket going up against the republicans ?
I'm an ideological purist and I'm voting for Jill Stein! This won't backfire in any way!
AOC is being smart/practical. Is Biden anyone's first choice on the left? Fuck no. We can have some more ideological purity when the choice isn't between milquetoast and literal fucking fascists.
Biden wasn't even my third choice in the '20 primary. That said, he's one of the most legislatively accomplished presidents in modern history. Still zero chance I'm going to be excited about voting for him in '24, but who has a shot at beating Trump right now? is maybe the guy that already did?
I'm just tired of living in a country where I have to hold my nose and vote for the worst democrat, because the worst democrat still in no way comparable to the awfulness of even the best republican.
I agree with this sentiment, but how long must we wait to vote for actual exciting, progressive candidates? It feels like we've been "holding our nose" for decades now, and each time we vote for the "lesser evil" they become more emboldened to ensure that they always have power.
Given the data? 2032 the least. 2028 if millennials and Gen Z voted near 100%. I recall a study that points to only 2-3 red states if every single eligible millenials and Gen Z voted.
I think lots of Democrats could beat Trump, but none of them could beat Biden in a primary. He's the incumbent and he's just not disliked enough for people to abandon the sitting president.
Definitely. Again, it's just practicality. Too much at stake that's why the only ones feigning towards a primary challenger are doing so in bad faith. Also, re: dislike, I really think Biden just doesn't get enough credit. I definitely thought he wasn't the man for the job in spite of voting for him in '20, but he's pleasantly surprised me.
He's pleasantly surprised me, but taken some pretty unforgiveable actions (breaking the rail strike, Title 42) and still isn't the man for the job (continually reinforcing norms while conservatives ignore them for advantage). This is better than I expected, but still not great.
But he's the guy we have and as much as I wish it was someone else, there's no real path to changing that. If AOC endorses Kamala Harris in '28 we can start to talk about her losing her fight, but the people talking about primarying Biden are just detached from reality or, as you said, bad faith actors.
Absolutely not, but I wouldn't mind a primary
this not happening shows a HUGE problem on the left. You should feel cornered with only one choice
It's one position. I assume Biden will keep Harris as his VP, giving a younger option to take over if need be. But there's fucking hundreds of other positions just as valuable. Those are the ones we should be trying to overturn with primaries imo. Get the house back and widen margins for the Senate.
Just please, if you're in the US, vote. We had a local election where I'm at recently with <15% turnout. It's fucking maddening to me that people only show up for the president, and even that is lucky to get >60%.
It might be a minus. in your eyes, but look at the other candidates we have for the Democratic Party. None of them are anywhere near as appealing as Biden. I'm saying that as some one who voted for Bernie in the primary before, and would flock to vote for AOC. And no, Marianne Williamson is not who I want for president given some of her questionable history though I would happily vote for her at a local level if the other person is a conservative or even a moderate.
Even if there were an alternative, it wouldn't matter. Parties whose incumbent get primaries do not go on to win the general. Whether you like it or not, the choice is Biden or the GOP and we are too close to fascism to fuck around.
I also honestly think he's been the best president we've had since FDR. IRA, Chips, Green Energy and infrastructure bills have all been gigantic successes. DOJ is charging trump. Unemployment is lowest in decades. It's really only his age that is concerning, but it's not concerning enough for me to risk the future of the country with someone less experienced and less equipped for the job.
In principle I agree, but splitting the Dem vote is a good way to lose an election. Biden is a compromised candidate, but still leagues better than another 4 years of Trump. Fact is there's no real chance of a younger president until 2028. Which is depressing.