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Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, a sign of the president’s strength in uniting his party to have the backing of one of its most liberal members

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[–] whofearsthenight 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm an ideological purist and I'm voting for Jill Stein! This won't backfire in any way!

AOC is being smart/practical. Is Biden anyone's first choice on the left? Fuck no. We can have some more ideological purity when the choice isn't between milquetoast and literal fucking fascists.

Biden wasn't even my third choice in the '20 primary. That said, he's one of the most legislatively accomplished presidents in modern history. Still zero chance I'm going to be excited about voting for him in '24, but who has a shot at beating Trump right now? is maybe the guy that already did?

[–] A_Random_Idiot 2 points 1 year ago

I'm just tired of living in a country where I have to hold my nose and vote for the worst democrat, because the worst democrat still in no way comparable to the awfulness of even the best republican.

[–] utopianrevolt 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can have some more ideological purity when the choice isn’t between milquetoast and literal fucking fascists.

I agree with this sentiment, but how long must we wait to vote for actual exciting, progressive candidates? It feels like we've been "holding our nose" for decades now, and each time we vote for the "lesser evil" they become more emboldened to ensure that they always have power.

[–] Reptorian 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Given the data? 2032 the least. 2028 if millennials and Gen Z voted near 100%. I recall a study that points to only 2-3 red states if every single eligible millenials and Gen Z voted.

[–] Zaktor 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think lots of Democrats could beat Trump, but none of them could beat Biden in a primary. He's the incumbent and he's just not disliked enough for people to abandon the sitting president.

[–] whofearsthenight 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely. Again, it's just practicality. Too much at stake that's why the only ones feigning towards a primary challenger are doing so in bad faith. Also, re: dislike, I really think Biden just doesn't get enough credit. I definitely thought he wasn't the man for the job in spite of voting for him in '20, but he's pleasantly surprised me.

[–] Zaktor 1 points 1 year ago

He's pleasantly surprised me, but taken some pretty unforgiveable actions (breaking the rail strike, Title 42) and still isn't the man for the job (continually reinforcing norms while conservatives ignore them for advantage). This is better than I expected, but still not great.

But he's the guy we have and as much as I wish it was someone else, there's no real path to changing that. If AOC endorses Kamala Harris in '28 we can start to talk about her losing her fight, but the people talking about primarying Biden are just detached from reality or, as you said, bad faith actors.