melonplant

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing, I had no idea there was a messaging format like XMPP

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I saw a trailer for it while watching spiderverse. Spiderverse is amazing btw

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's important to identify these arbitrary lines in the sand, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm really glad people are approaching topics like this. I think the way cryptocurrencies are issued and implemented right now is completely toxic. Even mainstream ones like Bitcoin and ethereum encourage massive electrical use and pollution.

I would add that doesn't mean they should be outright dismissed as the novel invention that they were. The right implementation or version of crypto could be right around the corner, and I think it would be close minded to just dismiss without considering whether we're adding something of value to the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a similar thought I've been mulling with giving each server their own unique currency that would function like server "equity." Voting on moderation, federation, etc could be handled through it.

If a server elects to, they could ask users to "buy in" to a server at registration. This could help cover hosting costs while still giving the user something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

He said it, smiling maniacly as the interviewer clawed at his hands around her throat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I had an idea that servers could issue out "equity" or voting shares. Decisions like moderation teams, federation, or other choices could be voted on based on users stake.

These shares could have other uses as well.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We could've drone striked Putin a bajillion times by now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm curious - why does each instance have its own copy of each others content? isn't that going to cause a ton of bloat over time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes always never commit fully to something in most cases

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh great thats really helpful. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it would be really nice to have a "fediverse map" for each server, to show where they're connected to and what instances are endorsed back.

Would make finding new servers/communities easier too

 

I had an idea that I wanted to run by people that are more familiar with lemmy and decentralized hosting. I've run it by some people I know but they don't have the familiarity with the fediverse to have it easily explained. The idea is not fully fleshed out so would love any sort of criticism or refinement this group could offer! And, apologies if i'm describing something that's been discussed to death or been done before.

What if servers came with their own currencies/tokens and ledger?

When an admin hosts a server they get a pool of currency that they can issue out, either as "karma" or in exchange for fiat currency to fund server hosting. For smaller servers this currency could be disregarded, but as servers grow and become more relevant in the greater fediverse, the currency/karma could grow to be valuable.

This "Currency" would be transferable to any other member of a server in any amount - as karma, in exchange for services, or whatever.

Additionally, the currency could be used for voting, maybe on admin teams or moderation policies. These could all be at the discretion of the host. I believe it would be best that the admin team has full control of the currency and the ledger but haven't ironed all that out yet.

This would encourage a number of valuable behaviors:

  1. Users would be encouraged to enrich their local communities
  2. Servers would be encouraged to moderate their servers so their currency is viewed as valuable by other communities
  3. Funding of servers by the user base is a bit like equity - you buy in to a server but anyone is free to treat the currency as meaningless or as gold
  4. Bad actor servers currency would be meaningless and irrelevant. If a host is acting in bad faith, the users with no stakes can freely migrate to another server. Ones with a stake can pressure the host to cut it out.

To take it to a mid developed system, I see users of prominent servers with large shares of the currencies as being valuable - they either started the community or were important to its establishment. If I see a post on a programming thread from a user who has 15% of currency of a prominent Computer discussion server, I may choose to value their opinion more heavily. Or not, but more info is always better I think.

In a late stage system, assuming I'm not overlooking something, I really feel like this would be an awesome place to be.

 

Hi all, first time posting. I've tried googling a bit but its not totally clear to me. Say I have servers A, B, C, and D.

Can servers A and B federate, and then separately C and D federate?

If so, can A B and C be federated, but separately C and D be federated, so D is not recognized as federated for A?

If A, B, C, and D are federated, and it becomes apparent that D is a bad actor, how does D become defederated?

I feel like these kinds of situations are critical to ensure long term success. I really appreciate any answers anyone can provide!

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