JonsJava

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[–] JonsJava 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The most recent conversation we had (read each image bottom-up while reading the images one at a time, from top down, because Lemmy):

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Next, for full context - our first interaction in DMs:

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Finally, the guy you were arguing with I removed comments, for the same reason.

I had completely forgotten about this until you attacked me here.

[–] JonsJava 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ahh. I had to scroll for a while to find it, but this was my last message on that topic:

perma ban for fighting people with the usage of misinformation.

Yes the Nazis famously led by whom? Context matters, bringing up Nazis is invoking Hitler and implying jd is literal Hitler. No, I mention that the way was already going to point out the ineptitude of your choice of date, 1938 being the most apt for your situation. The word evemy, I already offered the definition, you either lack reading ability, simply didn’t read it and you’re being wildly obtuse. We agree, why are you being a Vance right now? Ed: I’ll provide another > one that is antagonistic to another - especially : one seeking to injure, overthrow, or confound an opponent You*** stop an opponent you destroy an evemy***.

Opponent and enemy are the same in the goal, but not always the same in the motive. You try to beat the opponent/enemy, in the method proscribed in the actions being taken.

During WW2 but before the us entered? What a dumb question, of course but that time they were already running concentration camps. Are you implying jd Vance is literal Hitler and runs concentration camps in his backyard I guess? I sourced you the definition. I say he’s my opponent which does not imply violence, you say he is your enemy which does imply violence and you’re also berating me because I agree with you but refuse to use violent vitriolic language. Neat, logic that one out yourself.

He’s an opponent, he’s someone I stand against, he isn’t my enemy. Because when I say enemy I mean someone who needs to be removed from society by any means possible. You seem to use it as someone you don’t appreciate. Enemy: >a person who hates or opposes another person and tries to harm them or stop them from doing something: Opponent: a person who disagrees with something and speaks against it or tries to change it: I’m fairly sure by news rules calls for violence are specifically against the rules and I’m not sure why you would call for violence given that is the only difference in meaning between the two words.

Enemy (From the Oxford Learner’s Dictionary):

a person who hates someone or who acts or speaks against someone or something

In short, you twist words to your desires, and you talk down to people, insulting them, and their abilities.

I'll be hopping another client to post full screenshots of all our discussions, as right now, I'm being painted as an ass, without context.

[–] JonsJava 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Care to share an example of this? I'm all for learning and growing, and maybe we can resolve this hostility in a non-hostile manner.

[–] JonsJava 218 points 2 weeks ago (39 children)

Fuck, this his hard. As a father of a gay child, and a trans child, our immediate plans are passports.

[–] JonsJava 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Report directly to the authorities

100% agree with this. You reported the post in politicalmemes with this as the reason:

misinformation; these phone numbers route to a politically-aligned organization

What was the misinformation? The title says "[META] Where to call if you witness anyone intimidating or harassing at polling places." and the image clearly states who is behind it.

If you can state that they aren't there to help, and provide proof, I'll back down, but the fact that you came at it as "lies", that's a bold claim.

Again, contact authorities, but there's nothing wrong with having other avenues to assistance.

[–] JonsJava 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I agree, but every avenue at our disposal are forms. They will receive them, and I encourage that people DO report them to the FBI and Justice department. What I'm also saying is that those methods async, while this one is offering real-time assistance.

I would never say "don't notify the authorities". I am just saying that if you can put some weight behind your report and get it resolved while you are there, that's a good thing too.

You assuming that because they are a political org, they will play partisan politics, so to ignore them out-of-hand makes me wonder what you would do in their position.

Not all people are evil, and again, I'm not saying not to report to the proper authorities. I'm just saying that reporting to the proper authorities may take weeks or months, where this may help you in minutes or hours - in time for the vote.

[–] JonsJava 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I called the top number (the "NATIONWIDE" number).

They were very prompt. I asked them if someone - regardless of political leaning - were to call, what they would actually do, and how this would be a better solution to other services like the ones listed by @[email protected].

One thing is there's no real-time solution available anywhere in the U.S., from what I can find, nor what they are aware of.

Next, when we call, they will route your call to the proper escalation path, depending on the nature of the call. This also means that if you're being intimidated, they will reach out to the law enforcement for your polling station (city/county/state as needed). This is regardless of your political leaning. They would be contacting the proper authorities on behalf of the Democratic National Support Hotline, which carries a bit of weight, as they do have an army of lawyers at their disposal, for if it's not resolved in a timely fashion.

I was on hold for a while to get a better understanding of how things worked, to see if this was, in fact, a valid and viable option.

Yes, it IS partisan org, but they state they will not play partisan politics with intimidation.

TL;DR: they are there to do something the government can't/won't - provide immediate resolution to voter intimidation regardless of your political leaning.

[–] JonsJava 14 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I called the top number (the "NATIONWIDE" number).

They were very prompt. I asked them if someone - regardless of political leaning - were to call, what they would actually do, and how this would be a better solution to other services like the ones listed by OP.

One thing is there's no real-time solution available anywhere in the U.S., from what I can find, nor what they are aware of.

Next, when we call, they will route your call to the proper escalation path, depending on the nature of the call. This also means that if you're being intimidated, they will reach out to the law enforcement for your polling station (city/county/state as needed). This is regardless of your political leaning. They would be contacting the proper authorities on behalf of the Democratic National Support Hotline, which carries a bit of weight, as they do have an army of lawyers at their disposal, for if it's not resolved in a timely fashion.

I was on hold for a while to get a better understanding of how things worked, to see if this was, in fact, a valid and viable option.

Yes, it IS partisan org, but they state they will not play partisan politics with intimidation.

TL;DR: they are there to do something the government can't/won't - provide immediate resolution to voter intimidation regardless of your political leaning.

[–] JonsJava 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

only the source instance (where you created your account) has your IP.

[–] JonsJava 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sadly, I didn't. I live in Iowa. Just learned about "beggars night".

 

Started as a shower thought (literally in the shower), but decided to make it more open-ended.

My answer to this would be "watch future seasons of anime that I am waiting on".

I don't see how that could cause a huge ripple through time.

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by JonsJava to c/news
 

WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump "is fine"
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

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submitted 5 months ago by JonsJava to c/news
 

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Former President Donald Trump's campaign and businesses have provided "Significant financial benefits" to nine of the witnesses in his criminal cases, ProPublica reported Monday morning - shrugging off a threatening cease-and-desist letter sent by Trump's attorney.

The detailed report by ProPublica's Robert Faturechi, Justin Elliott, and Alex Mierjeski describes how nine individuals who have been named as witnesses received benefits that included "Large raises from his campaign, severance packages, new jobs, and a grant of shares and cash from Trump's media company" from Trump's various campaign committees and businesses.

These benefits "Often came at delicate moments in the legal proceedings against Trump," said the report, highlighting one example of Trump aide Dan Scavino, who was given a "Plum position on the board of Trump's social media company, for example, got the seat after he was subpoenaed but before he testified." Other well-known names in Trump's circle mentioned in the article include campaign adviser Boris Epshteyn, campaign head Susie Wiles, lawyer Evan Corcoran, and former Trump Org CFO Allen Weisselberg.

Salary increases, bonuses, promotions, and other benefits, can be evidence of witness tampering, the ProPublica article explained, if prosecutors can show that these employment changes occurred separate from normal business operations and the "Perks or punishments were intended to influence testimony." Even if no new charges are brought against the former president who is now a convicted felon, the details of these benefits could be used by prosecutors in Trump's still-pending cases to "Undermine the credibility" of these witnesses if the defense calls them to provide testimony helpful to Trump.

The Trump Org and various campaign entities have, of course, denied that any wrongdoing took place, and denied that Trump had knowledge or direct involvement in compensation issues.

One former aide compared working for the Trump Organization, his large company, to "a small family business" where every employee "In some sense reports to Mr. Trump." Former aides have said Trump demands unwavering loyalty from subordinates, even when their duties require independence Trump's former campaign manager and former campaign adviser were convicted on federal witness tampering charges in 2018 and 2019.

Trump posted on social media that he had read about a Georgia politician who "Will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury. He shouldn't." One witness has said publicly that, when he quit working for Trump in the midst of the classified documents criminal investigation, he was offered golf tournament tickets, a lawyer paid for by Trump and a new job that would have come with a raise.

 

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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by JonsJava to c/[email protected]
 
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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by JonsJava to c/iowa
 

I'm the father of 4, and we (wife and myself) want to take a week and go camping and hiking. I've done Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, and a few other places. We moved to Iowa ~5 years ago, but have yet to hike here. Anybody have a good place to hike/camp here in Iowa?

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