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To be fair, restaurants prioritize drive thrus over customers inside the restaurant. It's often faster for me to get my food waiting in a long line at the drive through than it is to go inside where there's no line at all, but I'm still placed at the very lowest priority.

Google as a whole has felt like it's built on top of a growing sinkhole. Everything seems fine on the surface, but I look back at the last ~10 years of google and which of their products has not been killed or gotten worse? When did I start to hesitate to try anything new from Google? And now all the sudden in 2023 we're comparing search engines again?

They've stopped the crazy innovation they were known for. They've continually eroded core products. Their 'ecosystem' barely functions together with bizarre limitations and multiple obvious tie-ins never capitalized on. If anyone was going to build an effective AI, I was sure it'd have been Google first. Why does it feel like they're last to the starting line?

I'm about a year away from just fully jumping ship from almost every google product. And my family/friends would be 2-3 years beyond that (many of them are fully Apple anyway).

This. I really don't get why people worry so much about defederating. Yes it shouldn't be taken lightly, but I personally want there to be multiple 'spheres' or networks of lemmy instances. Why would I want every lemmy instance to follow the same rules. Isn't that just the same problem as reddit?

Let there be a group of free-speech absolutist instances and another group of hyper curated instances and a middle group of more broad appeal. If I want to access any of these, all I have to do is create an account. Those defederated instances aren't lost. I can go there and make an account. No one is 'censoring' you.

I'm sure some of them like the power. But many of them just don't want to leave their community (because let's face it, a lot of communities won't leave and don't care about the drama). They feel like they're losing a friend group. It's the same reason why people stay in shitty friend groups even when they're treated like crap. They don't want to be alone or to have to start over.

The concept you're looking for is called the 'missing middle'. People assume the only two options are single family home suburbs or inner city mega apartments.

What's missing are small mixed areas (which are illegal to build in most of the US) that have single family homes, duplexes, small apartment buildings, all mixed in with commercial spaces like grocery stores and restaurants.

I feel like the email analogy sort of breaks down. Email is point to point, not a forum. If there's a Lemmy instance community that acts like the equivalent of the_Donald subreddit and they go around harassing other communities I'd want to defed from that server. I don't want to try to block them one by one.

The benefit (and potential downside) of Lemmy is that there could be several networks of communities. There doesn't have to be a single Lemmy community, but there could many, all with different goals and guidelines. That definitely has pros and cons, but I come down on the opinion that it's overall a good thing.

You really can't stop it unless you deliberately cultivate an anti-corp mindset in your users. You basically have to treat it like cyberpunk rules.

Estimates of TPA users were pretty low. Like 3%. That said the majoriy of the content and moderation also only comes from like 1-3% of users as well. So it was always a question of how much those two small groups overlapped. You can afford to lose a large chunk of casual users. If you lost 50% of your content posters and moderators, they'd be fucked. Stale front page would be the death knell for most casual users. They aren't loyal. They'll jump to TikTok or Instagram or wherever to get their meme fix.

They won't go under. They'll just become a shell. If they truly approached bankruptcy, someone would buy them just for the brand.

I get why people are doing it, but truthfully the folks deleting all their comments are the ones truly destroying the data. Even if we all moved on, that data would have still been there for us to google, just like all those mostly dead forums.

It helps not opening a post to find 10k plus comments and the top comment with 4k upvotes.

A lot of mods are community founders. They care about their community, not reddit. Reddits just a middleman getting in the way.

Imagine a group of friends. Reddit is the friend with the best house for parties, but is kinda a dick. The mods are the social ones that brought this friend group together in the first place. Reddit is being stupid and making dumb rules that mostly hurt the mod. The mod is trying to either get reddit to relax the rules OR convince the rest of the friends to leave. Truthfully the friends should leave, but reddits house is so nice and they're comfortable. The mod could leave, but they're afraid all that will result in is losing their entire friend group. The whole situation sucks all around.

My understanding was that you don't want any data from a defed instance on yours. What if that server has CP or other illegal crap on it? Could open instance owners up to liability