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[–] eltrain123 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This seems to be getting promoted and changed to slant opinion. The study is on “incident” rate, which includes accidents, DUIs, citations, and speeding, but is definitely not just accidents. It also says Tesla has the second worst drivers, by incident rate,behind Dodge.

I couldn’t find any specific data they used about why speeding and citations are separate and am wondering if it is because Teslas have more communication about statistics than other manufacturers that don’t have digital data and OTA capability.

When I tried to find the actual study lending tree did, I couldn’t find it, but found several other insurance company studies that didn’t list Tesla in their Top 5 most accidents. If anyone actually sees this study or any others that confirm it, let me know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"Source: LendingTree analysis of QuoteWizard by LendingTree insurance quote data from Nov. 14, 2022, through Nov. 14, 2023."

QuoteWizard is LendingTree's product to compare insurance rates between different companies. Basically, their way to insert themselves in the process to gather people's info.

Accident rate quote: "Tesla drivers have the highest accident rate. From Nov. 14, 2022, through Nov. 14, 2023, Tesla drivers had 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers. Ram (22.76) and Subaru (20.90) were the only other brands with more than 20.00 accidents per 1,000 drivers. Meanwhile, Pontiac (8.41), Mercury (8.96) and Saturn (9.13) were the only brands with fewer than 10.00 accidents per 1,000 drivers."

Subaru is likely high due to the Impreza WRX and the WRX STI models which are rockets.

Interesting to see the lowest accident rates are seen in three marquees that no longer exist; Pontiac, Mercury, and Saturn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Subaru is likely high due to the Impreza WRX and the WRX STI models which are rockets.

Possibly also because the non-WRX Subarus stay on the road with elderly drivers longer too. They are the retired seniors’ car of choice in New England.

Interesting to see the lowest accident rates are seen in three marquees that no longer exist; Pontiac, Mercury, and Saturn.

This must be since the ones that have survived are still around because of careful owners.

[–] eltrain123 2 points 6 months ago

https://www.lendingtree.com/insurance/brand-incidents-study/

This is the article that comes up if you search that title. I had previously seen it. It specifically calls out dodge rams as having the worst drivers and still is just a summary of the data, not the actual study. Tesla is shown as number 2, but again, the details of the data are not in the text. Why are speeding and citations separate categories and how was the data collected?

Tesla definitely has a problem with bad drivers not adhering to their warnings and recommendations on using autopilot and fsd beta, and Tesla can do more to limit speed while in use, but the framing of this and the “source” article are being promoted in a way that doesn’t lend to credibility.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You’ve got to figure, if some is still driving their 20 year old Saturn or Mercury, they are a careful driver.

[–] JustZ 1 points 6 months ago

LendingTree is absolute shit. It's righty biased clickbait nonsense designed to push the spin of the home mortgage industry and the capital class. Their "studies" are non scientific and useless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

cross-post. most of the comments are in this post - https://lemm.ee/post/18442907

[–] JustZ 2 points 6 months ago

LendingTree is garbage clickbait.