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this post was submitted on 13 Dec 2023
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This could be really bad considering the current makeup of the court, but it is good they took up the case. The current ruling on this is abhorrent and really needs to be overturned. Abortion access opponents were fighting this appeal. It was the federal government/Biden admin who wanted this appealed immediately to overturn the current ruling, that basically would let judges strike down fda approvals willy nilly. Another chapter in the long book of "judges who think they're doctors" stupid court rulings. Not to mention issues of standing and many other dubious things in the initial rulings. Just conservative partisan hack judges bending over backwards to get the outcome they want with no good justification.
The conservative SCOTUS will make it worse.
Check out where the ruling stands already:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2811388
It's hard to imagine a worse ruling. The Biden admin is absolutely right to appeal this and try to preserve access to this drug. Believe it or not there are more extreme conservative judges out there than the supreme court justices. The venue abortion opponents started this case in was particularly selected by abortion opponents, because they know exactly what trial Judge they'll get, and this Jude will write any random nonsense to restrict abortion access, and has done this on many occasions. Then the appeal goes to the fifth circuit who are very extreme idealogues. Even the supreme court over ruled their extreme opinions six out of seven times in 2019-2020 and five out of seven times 2020-2021.
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/nov/15/fifth-circuit-court-appeals-most-extreme-us
But basically, the current ruling from the fifth circuit is so extreme if allowed to stand its hard to fathom how even this supreme court could make the ruling any worse. Abortion access opponents didn't want the ruling appealed and were hoping the supreme court would not hear the case, so it's good the supreme court is hearing it. It's at least a chance at over turning this.
I wouldn't past the conservative justices to simply use this case to rule all abortion illegal nationwide. Or more likely, will support the decision and tack on additional restrictions by expanding the scope.
Don't get your hopes up with this SCOTUS, just because they didn't do it before doesn't mean they won't pick a case that they think is more suited to their ambitions.
They aren’t medically qualified to make these decisions
The very idea that a larger group of people allow themselves to tell another group of people what they may do with their body or mind is anathema.
No drug should be illegal. No surgery illegal.
We are not the property of civilization. Our bodies and minds belong to ourselves. We may do with them as we wish, individually.
The only valid purpose of civilization is to improve the quality of life of everyone but it must do so in a voluntary and non-authoritarian manner.
In the US, the DEA should be a giant drug rehabilitation clinic & education center. Any military and intelligence apparatus should be converted to stop slavery.
Anything different is illegitimate and unjust.
Spitting straight facts from the porn account, respect lol