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Probably my fault - and other folks like me. Yall are having a pretty large influx of new users, so hopefully it'll even out soon. I see a lot of loading errors too, but since I blame me, I'm dealing well with it.
I definitely understand it would be irritating for long-time users though. Sorry!
No worries my friend, we've been waiting for you!
Maybe the longtime users, but anyone who's joined in the last month has been waiting for this mass migration to liven up the place. I think we'd all trade some temporary slowness for a bulk of new users, I saw a post earlier saying lemmy.world has grown 40% in the first 12 hours after reddit killed third-party apps.
Hell, I was on kbin.social when the blackout started, and that site went pretty much unusable.
Oh I wouldn’t worry about the “long-time” users. The Lemmy.world instance was established only a month ago!
Yeah how dare you!
(p.s. welcome)
Yeah. Taking a while to reply. It is 14:30 in UK so load can be pretty testy on a weekend. Especially with many refugees. Probably a good load test, but uncomfortable for users.
Given the current time, I expect the load is increasing due to the rest of the US waking up and getting online. The fixes and optimisations have been rolling out at an incredible pace but ultimately the software has never had to support these kinds of numbers so we're all just guinea pigs in a big experiment and need to be patient with some ups and downs.
Was working fine until America woke up.
Server strain gives me confidence in the future
We are a heavy bunch
Let’s hope it’s because of all the new users joining
Also because a bunch of us are trying repeatedly and failing…I’ve given up but was trying unsuccessfully to make an account for a solid 24 hours.
Just as a note, since it looks like you're using an account on lemmy.blahaj.zone and maybe chose that Lemmy instance as an arbitrary alternative to Lemmy.world -- that's something of a special-interest instance oriented towards creating a safe space for transexuals and the like. Not that the people there are bad folk or anything, but it might not be the instance I'd choose if I were going for just another lemmy.world, but one that wasn't having technical problems and was usable.
Some other lemmy instances with comparatively-large pre-Reddit-blackout communities, like beehaw.org, are similar, and I think that that may be why people just looking for a reasonable instance migrate there -- they see the user count on lemmy.fediverse.observer and pick them without thinking much, because the Fediverse Observer provides little useful information about the instances. I kind of wish that lemmy.fediverse.observer and kbin.fediverse.observer would let lemmy and kbin instances publish a one-line description or something to help people get a quick idea of what the instance is about.
I also saw someone from kbin.social comment on a community on pawb.social the other day upset that there was a furry on there, probably not aware that they were on pawb.social and that that instance was dedicated to providing a friendly environment for furries. The community name was just "tech". Someone in that thread, clearly thinking through the deeper implications, pointed out that it's not always obvious what the instance culture is about. If a lemmy or kbin instance could put a one-line description in their metadata, then the lemmy or kbin web UIs -- as well as the third-party clients -- could display that line of text while users are visiting communities on that instance, to give them a quick idea of what the instance and community both are about, avoid situations like the above.
The lemm.ee dev has found that another instance has been (unintentionally) DoSing other instances. He's implemented various mods that have mitigated this, pushed up to the main Lemmy codebase.
Source? More specific information would be appreciated.
He didn't really get more specific but it was mentioned here https://lemm.ee/post/523075
Interesting. Thanks for the link!
I'm just gonna leave this small timeline here:
Lemmy: 1,660,853 overall users
Kbin: 52,449 overall users
^ 2023-07-01 01:29:00 CEST
Lemmy: 1,582,360 overall users (- 78493, definitely bots)
Kbin: 53,459 overall users (+ 1010)
Active last 30 days:
Lemmy: 51,711 users
Kbin: 53,490 users
^ 2023-07-01 12:00:00 CEST
Lemmy: 1,586,315 overall users (+ 3955)
Kbin: 53,713 overall users (+ 223)
Active last 30 days:
Lemmy: 53,255 users (+ 1544)
Kbin: 54,001 users (+ 288)
^ 2023-07-01 21:15:00 CEST
Lemmy: 1,553,032 overall users (- 33283, certainly bots)
Kbin: 55,032 overall users (+ 1319)
Active last 30 days:
Lemmy: 55,717 users (+ 2462)
Kbin: 54,768 users (+ 767)
^ 2023-07-02 13:00:00 CEST
Lemmy: 1,555,395 overall users (+ 2363)
Kbin: 55,201 overall users (+ 433)
Active last 30 days:
Lemmy: 56,859 users (+ 1142)
Kbin: 55,099 users (+ 331)
^ 2023-07-02 20:15:00 CEST
Furthermore for the kbin stats visit this site and for the Lemmy stats visit this site
Yeah, but a lot of those Lemmy accounts are inactive ones being auto-created by bots on Lemmy instances that didn't have a CAPTCHA set up. That shouldn't produce load for lemmy.world.
That's why I included the accounts that were active the last 30 days as well as the overall user numbers. Though the overall numbers (for Lemmy) seem to be sinking hard every now and then, certainly due to bots and or botted instances being deleted, the number of active users however is rising steadily.
I’m sure the bots will arrive in force as the place grows, but the number of magazines, posts, and comments has really taken off from when I joined kbin a few weeks back. This place is getting really enjoyable with a lot of content showing up.
One option is to make another account on at least one other kbin or lemmy instance. You can at least browse with that when the instance that has your main account is sluggish or otherwise having problems. Not to mention that it will take some load off that main instance, help other users on that instance.
Even if you don't want to make an account, you can at least browse without being signed in using another instance. Can't customize the settings, but that may not be a huge issue for you. I've popped over to fediverse.boo, another kbin instance, to anonymously browse when kbin.social, where my account is, has issues.
It's a neat perk of the Fediverse that that is an option. On early Reddit, when the site went down -- and it did that a lot back when -- it was down.
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list
Lots and lots of options to pick from there.
Yeah, this is really the best way to handle it.
I started using my lemmy.ca account much more instead. But still check in here.
I found that syncing between instances has been a problem. If I view a thread from lemmy.ca, it might not have all the comments from lemmy.world.
So for that reason I've been still wanting to use my lemmy.world account if I can. I know they will iron these issues out though.
Very exciting times :)
Same for me, stuff takes ages to load and most posts I make timeout. Am in the UK.
The website is so slow it’s unusable. I found an iOS beta app called thunder that loads posts fast.
Yeah, slow for me too. But it's in its early days, so the experience can only improve from here!
Yeah seeing more issues posting and voting recently. I’m guessing it’s either the large influx of new users, the upgrade to the server, or both.
Same. Hopefully it gets sorted soon
yeah, that's why i use kbin. much faster than lemmy. the downside is it has less feature
I don't see anything about kbin that makes it inherently faster than Lemmy. Lemmy.world is just larger, and is growing quickly, where as kbin.social got a major server upgrade during the last wave.
US NW here, yeah its been really slow this morning, since around 6am or so
commenting appears to hang/not commit but it does go though if you try to open the parent comment from another tab you'll see the comment went through (probably just increasing the load, but eh...)
I imagine they are reaching there user capacity. Lemmy was never designed infrastructure wise to support so many. It was supposed to be a slow growing platform of small communities
Kbin is really fast right now
Specifically kbin.social.
There are other kbin instances than kbin.social, and other lemmy instances than lemmy.world.
Was working fine until America woke up.
Server strain gives me confidence in the future
Yeah seeing more issues posting and voting recently. I’m guessing it’s either the large influx of new users, the upgrade to the server, or both.
Lemmy.world is getting slammed. If you make an account on another instance you can still view all the same content but it will be much snappier.
But due to syncing issues, viewing posts cross instances at the moment, the comments are delayed by sometimes greater than 1day in my experience.
Lemmy.world content has been pretty delayed lately but I hadn't observed that always being the case. That said I see 22 replies to your post from lemmy.world and 18 replies from my personal kbin instance so it's getting a lot better!
Same for me, stuff takes ages to load and most posts I make timeout. Am in the UK.