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[–] [email protected] 238 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Somebody actually took time to sit down and draw this.

I guess my life isn't that bad after all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

I've always felt self conscious about making a comic because I suck at drawing, but yeah if someone can happily produce and release that, I think I might be right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] AFKBRBChocolate 120 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's much easier to argue against something if you completely make up ridiculous scenarios to argue against.

Our kid is non-binary. No parent is happy for that to happen. I don't think any person is happy to realize it about themselves, except to the extent that it explains why they had been so unhappy previously.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's the thing the angries don't realize, life would be much simpler for the people concerned if they were just cis-heteros, it's not about being contrarians and it's not a choice, it's just who they are and that should be ok so it becomes something that isn't more difficult!

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Exactly! I've never experienced it first hand, but I've seen the anguish of friends whose parents keep setting them up on straight dates with people they fundamentally aren't attracted to. I've had trans women friends who weren't close to passing and who desperately wanted a relationship with a straight man. Often they'd end up dating gay men, feeling unsatisfied because those men treated them like another man. So much sadness.

I often think that the people who believe sexuality is a choice must at least be bi. There's just no circumstance where I could choose to be attracted to men instead of women, and it's laughable to think otherwise. I feel like anyone who thinks otherwise must have the capacity to make that choice, and the poor reasoning skills to think someone would.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As a bi guy, it doesn't work any different for us. We're attracted to men and women whether we like it or not. We don't choose our attractions. We don't think it's a choice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah I think some people don't understand that it's no better if you need to contain your feelings for someone just so you can try and find someone else to be with just so you can pass for an hereto...

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As someone in their late twenties who just recently came to understand and accept that I am nonbinary, I applaud you for your acceptance of your kid.

I never fit in growing up and never knew why. Now as an adult I still probably won't mention it to my parents, despite making some significant life changes, due to their proven lack of empathy.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That sucks, I'm sorry. If there's anyone in your life who should accept you for who you are, it's your parents. They're the ones who have seen the most of your life experiences, and who contributed whatever stuff you were born with.

I certainly wish our child had an easier situation, but they're beautiful and brilliant and kind, and we couldn't be prouder of who they've become.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 11 months ago (21 children)

I haven't yet seen anyone else point out:

If the embryo was tested, they would know the sex before transferring it to the surrogate uterus (easily avoiding the problem). IVF is insanely expensive, as are surrogates. (Surrogates go for $50k plus per pregnancy)

Whoever did this comic is so willfully (and woefully) ignorant on so many levels that I wonder how they're able to function at all

[–] totallynotarobot 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not disagreeing with your comment, but $50k??? That's IT??

What a fucking insult. That is some straight up exploitative shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

That's just the cash payment. All of the medical stuff is paid for, usually further amenities so the surrogate maintains low stress and such for the health of the baby.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

If it makes you feel better, it's usually more. There are a lot of factors, including how much the surogacy agency gets for their cut, which state or country, if they are a family member or friend, whether the parents are able to add a surrogate on their insurance, etc.

We looked into it because I'm older and thus higher risk, but ultimately decided against it. My neice even offered to carry our kid, but I just feel too guilty. I'm kind of whatever on having children but my husband has dreamed of being a dad since he was a lil' boy

[–] AeonFelis 4 points 11 months ago

That's why you get a woman from a third world country that can retire in leisure on these $50k.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal 11 points 11 months ago

They don't even draw good neither

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Whoever made this is deeply damaged.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives usually are. It's the only way to explain their callous indifference to human suffering or their obsession with everyone else's genitalia.

[–] Dkarma 13 points 11 months ago

They are deeply ashamed. Public shaming actually works really well.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Great. We all lost a few IQ points for having read this.

[–] affiliate 11 points 11 months ago

we are thus one step closer to becoming conservatives

[–] Mammal 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, does the author think this is a thing? Or is this lampooning the attitude?

Classic Poe's Law.

[–] Jiggle_Physics 14 points 11 months ago

From looking at the person's social media it would seem they are not making that joke. They are mostly a retweeter of StoneToss and Mr. Pumpkin, both white supremacist comic writers. They seem to occasionally make their own blending the two styles, hence the MrPump_Toss watermark.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago

They reach so hard for imaginary scenarios, it's actually amazing how far they will go to justify carrying on their asshole behavior

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I refuse to believe someone made this unsatirically. (Is that a word? What word am I looking for?)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Unironically?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ahh yes, orphanage buy baby so they can let gay parent to adopt, and transgender is forced by parent.

Checkmate, aesthetic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

the illustration is stupid, but what it's illustrating is not an orphanage but a surrogate.
it portrays them paying for a surrogate mother to gestate some eggs that were fertilized with either of their sperm,
and they state that they aborted every fetus that had two x chromosomes until they had one that was XY,
which they allowed to mature into a viable infant, which was then birthed.

notice how the infant is reaching for the individual in the bed.
they are reaching for their mother.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I would love to talk to someone who really thinks this is funny - we would be like to aliens from different worlds.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

It's so stupid I laughed

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

Freddy Mercury really turned into a dick after he died.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The most realistic part about all of this is walking out of a hospital with a baby one hour after giving birth.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Sex-selective abortion is not uncommon, but is an uncomfortable ethical quandry.

Do conservatives really object to the use of surrogates, or only when they're used by gay couples?

TBH, I initially thought the comic was going to be about sex-selective abortion; I didn't get what they were trying to say until the last panel :-/

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sex-selective abortion is not uncommon, but is an uncomfortable ethical quandry.

What the fuck Caucasus and China

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Caucasus and China are notoriously mysoginistic.

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[–] Kase 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So surrogate mothers are evil too?? Do they say this when it's for a heterosexual couple?

And I hope the implication isn't that they wanted a boy just because they wanted a trans kid. Transmasculine people exist. But it's possible they're saying the evil gay couple specifically wanted a trans girl, I'm just not sure what the author's point is in that case.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not my personal point of view, but as I understand it, IVF is 'abortion/murder' because you don't use all the viable embryos AND the sperm donor has to masturbate into a cup.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

The quality of artwork is Chris Chan Sonichu levels of proficiency. Chef's Kiss

[–] AVengefulAxolotl 6 points 11 months ago

What the actual fuck is this. I literally have no words about this... Like none at all...

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