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[–] tdawg 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly I get it. Junk food can be addicting. If nothing else try to cut out the soda

[–] Mr_Blott 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The word is "addictive" btw

[–] CluckN 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using addicting instead is addictive

[–] Mr_Blott 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that's a bit passing aggressing of you :(

[–] 2deck 5 points 1 year ago

It's passive. Like passive aggresshen.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog 5 points 1 year ago

A dick, tiv

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[–] newthrowaway20 6 points 1 year ago

The marketing we allow sure doesn't help.

[–] margaritox 3 points 1 year ago

I think cutting the soda goes a very long way. Soda is nothing but empty calories and I feel like I’d it’s so easy to just cut it from your diet.

[–] qooqie 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Isn’t this what Michelle Obama tried to do? What would you (or anyone else wanting to pitch in) suggest for policies?

[–] NickwithaC 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Jamie Oliver as well in the UK. People STILL hate him for trying to feed their kids better than they could. The strength of the desire in people to make life worse for themselves and everyone else makes me hate this fucking country.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember having an argument with a friend about algebra in schools. Her kid was struggling, so she said why does he need to learn it, he can just get a job like hers where it's not needed. Every other post of hers on Facebook was complaining about her crappy job.

There's a strange mentality here that we're all struggling, but nobody should be doing better. If someone does try, they get called out for it and shamed.

[–] UltraMagnus0001 3 points 1 year ago

The mentality of the working class passed down.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem with wealthy influencers like him is they always promote expensive food items with meaningless qualifiers. Local, organic, free range, natural etc don’t mean shit when you are broke. Teach people how to make healthy dishes with conventionallly grown foods you can buy at Walmart or whatever because that’s where the people who need help the most shop. Familiar foods, Vegetables. Beans. Rice. Lentils. Chicken. Nuts. Etc. not EVO, spaghetti squash, and “organic” chanterelles.

The upper middle class people who shop at Whole Foods don’t need a Jamie Oliver. And that’s what his target audience was/is.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They saw Jamie Oliver as elitist for trying to get kids to not eat shit. Did you ever see his program? It was abysmal what they were serving British schoolchildren in schools.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Make healthy food cheaper and tax junk food heavily. My dad recently moved to Ecuador and he’s eating like a king - fruit is like a 5th of the price there than it is where I am in the US.

Now I’m not expecting fruit at a 5th of the price lol, but making it reasonably priced at all would be a welcome change.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Healthy school meals, making healthy food cheaper, taxing junk food, but I think the most helpful would be to heavily limit advertising of junk food, especially advertising to children.

I really feel like heavy restrictions on advertising would genuinely help with a range of different issues in the modern world.

[–] qooqie 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I love the advertising idea, the tax idea idk. Havent they tried taxing junk food and it’s never worked out? Either through general outrage or people circumventing it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the taxing one is quite controversial and I don’t know if I necessarily agree with it.

But, the sugar tax in the UK seems to have had a positive impact so far, from what I’ve seen it’s reduced childhood obesity and dental issues.

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[–] newthrowaway20 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Start by reversing some of the bullshit decisions Congress made. Like how they decided pizza was a vegetable.

https://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/

It's a wonder Americans can actually get any good health advice when everything is a marketing gimmick or flat out lie. But when our own government is just rolling over while businesses legally poison the majority of the population is just insane to me. We don't have to stop individuals making their own choices to fight back against some of this insanity. And proper information is a good starting point. No more deceptive advertising. No more saying your cheese when you're not. No more "Wyngs" or other bullshit naming only designed to deceive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the FTC should crack down on deceptive advertising too.

No more saying your cheese when you're not. No more "Wyngs" or other bullshit naming only designed to deceive.

But these are not the most pressing issues. Call your product whatever name you want, I just want to know exactly what's in it.

I agree that calling something "cheese" when it's "dehydrated oil shreds" or something is deceptive. Saw that today at Whole Foods. No, it's not healthier; it just doesn't have dairy.

Lack of dairy or gluten doesn't make things healthier. Those ingredients aren't replaced with air. They're usually replaced with something that sounds disgusting. But food companies don't want to put that on the package so they list what it doesn't have.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Regulate advertising. Ban ads targeting children.

[–] KoalaUnknown 5 points 1 year ago

Michelle Obama’s policies were stupid. Replacing ice cream with low fat ice cream that has more sugar doesn’t help anyone lose weight.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

the my plate shenanigans was just replacing high calorie density foods with low density foods but obfuscated by using volume as a measurement.

they did nothing to address food deserts.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (19 children)

It’s so expensive and time consuming to eat healthy, even more expensive if you want quality ingredients.

Meanwhile, junk food is quick, cheap, and tastes “better” because they just pack it full of sugar or have no regard for nutrition.

There’s really little incentive to eat healthy unless you’re making a conscious decision to be healthier.

[–] chakan2 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Beans and rice is cheap as hell, easy to make, and it'll last for a week or two depending on storage options.

I'm really tired of the expensive angle on healthy eating. It literally takes 20 minutes of research to get around that issue.

[–] lennybird 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep it's total bullshit. What people are really saying is they're too lazy to prepare foods. Stir fry is cheap. Soup is cheap. Beans (refried, chili, black bean, etc.) & rice is cheap. All healthy.

Making lentil tacos tonight. Again, filthy cheap. Stupid simple. But tons of protein, complex carbs, fiber, vitamins, and minerals.

It gets much more efficient time-wise when you meal prep. Every improvement requires "conscious effort." we're just accustomed to bad habits because nobody taught us better.

Edit: I was a bit harsh on the laziness accusations. People are products of their environment generally and there are fair points regarding societal pressures. The body tends to take the path of least resistance and, well, this is the outcome.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

People are “lazy” because it’s takes 2-4 incomes to support a household instead of one. Everything is rushed for a reason. Convenience isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessity for many people, especially the hardest working.

The majority of healthy eating working class families are eating healthy because they have a retired grandmother or grandfather helping out cooking old school dishes etc. isolated small households with two working parents are going to feel compelled to get cheap and quick food otw home from work.

[–] lennybird 3 points 1 year ago

Man... My wife and I I support my mother, our 2 young kids, and my sister under a 2-income. These kids don't go to daycare or school yet (which we plan on homeschooling) so no breaks. People definitely can make time but oftentimes have their priorities out of whack. No cooking contribution and a net-negative in terms of chores, mind you.

Yes, it's easy to order quick food and we've all been there. I won't lie and say we don't occasionally. I completely get that. But I truly believe it's a matter of bad habits across generations as opposed to being that confined on time. Besides, you're going to lose all that time in less productivity / efficiency, especially when you're sick more frequently and have to go to urgent care or hospital because of a poor diet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Untrue. Americans get paid like crazy for the jobs they do. In Canada, the average income and CPI ratio is so much lower than in America and we have a fraction of the obesity problem.

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[–] yuki2501 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Yeah, we should keep shaming parents for childhood obesity! Now, let's go on with more stimulus for High Fructose Corn Syrup..." 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

This meme is art

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I do feel that parents share a responsibility. Then again, the parents are often also fat, so the cause might go deeper than overfeeding the kid

[–] jittery3291 6 points 1 year ago

I reccomend reading Ultra-Processed People by Chris Van Tulleken. It explains how modern food is designed to be over consumed. Mind blowing book.

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