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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fun fact: the Romans knew that lead was toxic from their own observations, but still chose to use it because it was just so useful, and because the health effects are chronic so do not manifest for a long time, meaning it could be much more easily ignored until it was too late.

Sound familiar?

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact, lead is delicious and counts itself among the most historically accepted forbidden snacks. Wine, in veggies absorbed through fertilizer, dissolved in solution, lead can be, and has been, enjoyed many ways.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The US still has a lot of lead pipes and I think that kind of explains a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (6 children)

not just plastic bottles / containers,
we literally have teflon cookware

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Teflon cookware is mostly a non-issue during cooking because PTFE starts melting only at temperatures largely higher than cooking temperatures.

The problem is when it gets discarded and incinerated and it emits residues, and during its fabrication.

[–] Anticorp 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

The problem is when the surface gets damaged, which is always. Just throw away all of your Teflon and use cast iron pans. They're almost as easy to clean, and they don't have the same health risks. Sure, DuPont claims their new Teflon is safe, but they're the same company that knowingly lied about their first Teflon, fought in court about it for 30 years, and even bribed health authorities.

[–] LordKitsuna 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I feel like people that recommend cast iron as an alternative are misunderstanding the entire reason Teflon became popular in the first place. I ain't got time to learn a secret ritual dance of how to season My Pan. That being said, I just use stainless steel and I've learned how to use it properly so that it doesn't just stick to everything.

As long as you properly preheat your stainless steel you will have little issue with sticking, there's a neat little trick someone taught me splash some water on your pan if it stays in place and Bubbles it's not ready yet but if it starts dancing around the pan you can use it and it won't stick

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No way it doesn't degrade and emit PFAS occasionally during normal use. There's a reason nobody who keeps birds will keep that shit in their house.

The risk:reward ratio is so skewed it's stupid.

Risk: if you heat it slightly too much a class of chemicals literally called "forever chemicals" because of how long they stay in the body will enter your lungs and your food

Reward: food no sticky

[–] BackOnMyBS 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s a reason nobody who keeps birds will keep that shit in their house

For those of us that have no clue what this quote it about, what is the reason that nobody with a bird will have teflon in their house at the same time?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sorry, I forget not everyone else is a bird person. Teflon is notorious for making pet birds drop dead without warning during normal use. It's very 'canary in the coal mine.'

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

the "teflon fumes" for lack of a better term are extremely toxic to birds

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ever seen a well used Teflon pan that wasn’t scratched or chipped? All of that goes into your food.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

OK but PTFE itself is not carcinogenic or harmful from what I remember. Only when it starts deteriorating at high temperatures does it release harmful components. So eating your Teflon pan isn't supposed to be that bad.

https://www.cancercenter.com/community/blog/2021/09/does-teflon-cause-cancer

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Would you crosspost this (or give me permission to crosspost) to RoughRomanMemes and HistoryMemes? This is perfect!

For some extra context for those not in the know - the Romans boiled down wine in lead pots to make sweetener, because the lead made it even sweeter. Not because they didn't know that lead was bad - they understood it full well, and even associated certain forms of lead poisoning with lead cosmetics.

But sweetener? Just a little tasty sweetener on your bread and in your wine? What could go wrong!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Be my guest!

I keep finding memes like this and was wondering if we had a fediverse equivalent for it yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Subbed to the historymemes one just now, but roughromanmemes doesn't seem to be visible to me for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You may be the first RoughRomanMemes visitor from your instance.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Even funnier(?), the Romans knew that lead pipes could leech lead into the water, but also knew how to counteract it (allowing calcium buildup in the pipes and ensuring a certain distance the water traveled to ensure that buildup); but this method doesn't work with modern pipe systems because the water remains in the pipes for longer, allowing the lead to seep into the water even when there is buildup. Huzzah for worse lead piping problems than the Ancient Romans?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same with cars. But don't worry, they'll be electric soon!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i love electric cars bc i can feel like im helping the environment, without riding public transport with the poors

/s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean in most cases it's someone who doesn't live in a place with adequate public transport to even be riding with the poors to begin with

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do we know microplastics to be toxic?

[–] madcaesar 24 points 1 year ago

Not as bad as lead but definitely not good.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Maybe not in small enough quantities, but what happens when your body accumulates enough of it? Maybe its completely inert but it will build up inside us like dust builds up on devices and eventually it might start clogging something critical, like extremely small bloodvessels or maybe some badly understood cleaning mechanism on brains.

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