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Am I doing HDR wrong? (feddit.nu)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I have never used an HDR display before so I'm not sure how it's supposed to look.

I have been playing Spider-man both with and without HDR and unless I'm staring right into the sun there is literally no difference. I have always heard people talk about HDR as something incredible but I'm honestly disappointed.

I also played Tetris effect: connected and HDR seemed to just make all the menus darker, but the rest looked the same.

Have I done something wrong or is this how it is supposed to be?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

HDR stands for high dynamic range. It means you can have detail in shadows and highlights without losing detail in the middle.

At the end of the day, it's just how your computer or console talks to the display. It doesn't change what your display is capable of. It can't magically make colors more vibrant, for example. What it does instead, with a quality display, is allow you to make specific colors more vibrant while keeping their detail, without losing it elsewhere. It should usually be subtle, except in specific showcases designed to push the edges of what HDR can do.

It also doesn't make a mediocre display not mediocre. If it can't accurately present the whole range, receiving it doesn't help a lot.

Edit: oh, didn't realize this is the steam deck sub. You probably can get actual feedback on the quality of the display, then. But it will still really only make a difference to quality if the developers made a specific effort to utilize it. Realistically, that's mostly on high quality lighting the steam deck can't really do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the difference should be easily visible assuming one has quality source material and a nice display. I was kind of assuming OP was talking about using the Steam Deck in docked mode, but maybe that was a bad assumption.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I should have been more clear. I'm using the steam deck oled with the regular display, not an external display.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Someone else said the actual OLED doesn't support it. I never paid attention because I talked myself out of needing one, but if that's the case you obviously wouldn't see it on the deck screen.

I think you'd run into the limitations of render quality for most stuff 3D, though. There might be 2D games that play with it, and I'm guessing there are demo videos. I know my first (non-HDR) OLED I enjoyed trying some OLED demo clips out to really see what it could do.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

The oled deck does support hdr, dont know why some people are claiming ut doesn't.

General HDR is not supported in Linux yet though, only in games. So videos are unfortunately not a thing I can use for comparison.

[–] sfcl33t 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you describe how you are enabling it? In-game? Are you adjusting it in game after enabling it? Is your deck itself set to full brightness (you obviously won't get the full 1000 nits if not)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Enabled it in-game. Tried default setting at first then raised the in-game max brightness from 1000 nits to 1200 nits to see if there was a difference but there wasn't.

I just tried raising the deck brightness and that actually made it look a bit better. I feel kinda dumb now that I didn't try that before. Still not the amazing difference people made it out to be but i could actually see a little bit of difference now, at least when I look at something bright.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If nothing else it should make the screen a heck of a lot brighter, max brightness is limited to 600 nits with SDR content but goes up to 1000 nits with HDR. For comparison, the LCD deck peaks at around 400, while this is 1400 from a 32" monitor.

Might also require correct HDR settings from the game to work properly? Not sure, don't have one myself.

[–] jordanlund 0 points 11 months ago

I have 2 Samsung HDR televisions and I'll never buy another one. The image is dark, muddy and unwatchable in HDR. The only fix is disabling it on all connected devices.