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I see nothing wrong in having scores. It encourages users to be active and post interesting stuff and provide interesting conversations.

if you put any association between upvotes and self worth, on any platform, thats on you (in general, not @ you op). i still thought karma was a fun measurement though, i see no problem it.

reddit hasn't "failed" yet, probably wont, ever. if it ever does, i promise you that karma wasnt the reason.

This has very little do to with wefwef and all with the Lemmy backend. The API simply gives out the total post and comment scores of a user. Nothing is done client side here. And I can promise you, that most apps will display these scores on a user’s profile page sooner or later, simply because it’s easy to do. So if you really want to abolish karma, then you should argue your case for Lemmy overall and not for a single app.

gotta say I dislike karma as well, but what a client does clientside is sort of its own business.

its likely that the best easy to keep this "karma" irrelevant is to just ignore both it and the apps that try to quantify it.

having said that, depending on how a client fetches data to calculate things it could be defined as instance load abuse and those clients could be user-agent banned from an instance at the discretion of the instance admins. this really should remain an instance by instance choice though.

This isn’t specific to wefwef. There are plenty of other apps that do the same, i believe its tied to the actual lemmy api that keeps track of everything.

Ive never been a big fan of karma either, but just having post and comment totals doesn’t really bother me. As long as we as a community don’t glorify it. Even when i was on reddit i never cared about my karma.

Having said that, not everyone is of the same mind set and there will definitely be accounts trying to “farm” points. If one of them posts a lot that it annoys me i can just block them from my feed.

After you hit 10K karma you stop giving a fuck, and so should you.

I fully disagree.

Lemmy exposes scores via the API; wefwef simply makes it available to the user. I can understand requesting an option to disable them though

Fuck, no.

Karma is what keeps bots and malicious actors at bay.

If you felt the need to have a high number, that says more about your own lack of personal control.

My main issue with karma and post scores was that it increased social conformity. People became more and more hesitant to voice opinions that went against the Reddit users mainstream, because saying something people disagreed with got immediately “punished” with downvotes.

The downvotes then made the comment less and less visible, which further contributed to the silencing of discussions. I think (polite) discussion is an important part of a platform such as this one. It’s a pity that Reddit’s system discouraged discussion and became more and more a click factory. I hope that we can avoid that here. I agree that it would be a good step to remove the visible upvote/downvote system (or at least the downvotes).

If the majority does not like the concept of karma, they will migrate to a platform that doesn't have it. You will not be doing anything better than a shitty company by forcing something that a large population of consumers doesn't like.   The issue with this kind of decentralisation is that it becomes very difficult to stop someone from doing something a population does not like.

This web app (wefwef) has nothing to do with this. Take this argument to a Lemmy community about Lemmy.