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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"I disagree with the idea of unions"; well I disagree with the existence of billionaires yet I still have to put up with them. Best wishes to the Swedish unions. I hope they make Musks life just a little bit more miserable.

[–] likelyaduck 66 points 11 months ago

"Unions create a lords and peasants sort of thing". No Elon, that's Capitalism. Unions don't create this "sort of thing". They fight to dismantle it.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It'd change our society for the worse. The choice would be simple, IMO. He should either sign the agreement or leave.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

"I just don’t like anything which creates a lords and peasants kind of thing."

Excellent. Then you're the world's greatest supporter of unions and would never allow a non-union shop situation, where the billionaire class can take advantage of workers completely unfettered and with no accountability.

You know, a "lords and peasants" kind of situation, where the lords have all the power and the peasants have none. That sure would be horrible. Glad we all agree on that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


His appearance at the New York Times event may be best remembered for Musk’s diatribe against X’s missing advertisers; but the anti-union outburst shed light on a clash taking place thousands of miles away in Sweden.

Yet this small group of engineers is at the centre of a wave of industrial action, in which Swedish trade unions believe the very existence of the country’s long-established model of harmonious labour relations is under threat.

Tesla is not the only hi-tech company seeking to challenge the country’s approach: the Swedish buy now, pay later lender Klarna recently signed up to a collective agreement, but only after the threat of strike action.

In the US, the mighty United Auto Workers union has just won pay increases worth as much as 25% over the next five years for its members, after rolling strikes at major carmakers, including Ford and GM.

In Germany, where collective bargaining is traditionally widely used, the IG Metall union is actively seeking to organise in Tesla’s gigafactory near Berlin, which employs as many as 11,000 workers – and watching the Swedish standoff closely.

Sweden’s national mediator, Medlingsinstitutet, which plays a similar role to Acas in the UK, has attempted to act as a go-between but its senior labour adviser Per Ewaldsson acknowledges that it is a difficult one to resolve.


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