If I learned one thing, when talking with people about stuff like that: Most people unfortunately don't care. Many don't even have an ad blocker to begin with.
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ah, time for a re-watch I guess
What is this from?
The it crowd
Have a good binge
It's one of the last of the laugh track comedies. Wondering what kids of the future are going to think about shows like that.
they had a live audience. at least for the basement/office scenes
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Look, I was among the glorious warriors who installed Firefox on his parents/grandparents PC and replaced its shortcut’s image with IE’s one (because old people hate changes and won’t accept it easily)
- Oh again! They keep changing my Google internet!
- Yes grandma, it’s Windows… (« It wasn’t Windows » says the narrator in a deep and mysterious voice) Do you want me to install Linux? It’s free and open source and…
- Keep that commie thing away from me, I like that meadow picture…
- You know you can change th…
- Don’t you dare!
Anyway. We did it. We killed IE hegemony. It’s up to the new generation to take the baton and fight against the tyranny of Google.
The idea of installing Linux on a grandparent's computer is just asking for trouble. I convinced my father in law to give a Chromebook a try since he mostly just uses his computer to get online and boy, was that tricky. The average person has no idea what an Operating System is and will call you the minute they can't install a new program for some reason.
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The people who don't care and don't have an adblocker aren't and weren't ever the target. The people who are being targeted have an adblocker, and they're all moving to FireFox.
What Google is getting out of this most of all is future compliance as new users coming to Chrome will never know a world in which ad blockers were freely available on Chrome, as well as dog whistling this to other corporate browser vendors.
Don't forget they're pushing chrome on the whole internet. Websites are already telling Firefox users to fuck off if we aren't spoofing chromium and it's only going to get worse after this.
Firefox is my daily and I very rarely encounter a site that specifically rejects it. Do you have some examples?
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Long term they will move to Firefox also.
Because people like us will continue to suggest they use Firefox as their "tech person".
It's just a little slower for the people that don't care.
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I doubt most people use an adblocker.
Anyone who's aware of these issues or cares about them really should have been smart enough to switch to Firefox a long time ago.
A lot of people do use Adblockers. https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users
You can try other sources as well. The statistics say significant numbers on multiple places.
46% global and 27 USA? Damn the us people are even more tech illiterate than I would've guessed. I suppose the 85+% market share of the iPhone among teens has something to do with it.
Are you really surprised, considering how much our education system gets hijacked by right-wing legislation?
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I've seen this one before.
- A ton of people will complain
- Firefox will get a bunch of users for a few days
- 90% will go back to Chrome
That last 10% will be happier but that's just the way it goes. This is based on Netflix, Reddit, Twitter, and Microsoft.
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The description is "Google will disable MV2 extensions in 2024, including ublock origin" and the title is "Google will disable Ublock origin in 2024"
YouTube clickbait title moment.
I use firefox btw
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Not sure they understand the flow on effects. Those of us being affected and work in the corporate IT space who have a lot of say in what browsers are used will simply replace chrome with Firefox on our thousands of machines nationwide without a second thought. They are digging their own grave.
It's a little more complex then that.
First we need to draft a project to keep the PMs happy. Then test the change...
Then get it through change management...
Or just have our friends in secops make it a security call and a priority. Not saying I've done this before - no sir.
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Back before web browsers had ad-blocking extensions, we had programs like Web Washer. It was a local, ad-blocking proxy program that you ran along side your browser. To use it, you just changed your browser's network settings to point to Web Washer. And the ads would be filtered before they even reached your browser. It would be no problem to implement this again.
blocking YouTube ads can't really be done just with a DNS adblocker tho. if it could then my pihole would be blocking them too
It's a proxy though, so it could inspect the actual content, detect ads and do something about it. Peertube, Grayjay etc bypass ads just fine so I guess it could be done with the webapp?
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Google when people don't stop using chrome and just disable ublock:
:)
They won't make people disable uBlock. They'll just make it stop working, and people will just think the ads have gotten better or uBlock has gotten worse.
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Google when people stop using chrome
Not so sure about that. I know more than enough persons who still like to use Edge (Internet Explorer).
The problem isn't Edge in itself. It is good if there are many browsers. But when Javascript became more than just a play thing, all of a sudden browser slowly moved to chromium as an engine. There used to be Opera, IE, Edge, Firefox, Safari and Chrome with each their own browser engine. Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari and Firefox left. Google is way too powerful with their marketshare. They constantly try to implement features that are bad for users.
Please use Firefox if you can!
Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari/WebKit and Firefox/Gecko left.
{browser}/{browser_engine}
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New engines are in test stage, servo, ladybird etc.
Oh thank God. I was worried nobody would make new engines.
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I use Edge at work and it's a really decent browser. It's not Internet Explorer it's basically Chrome with different tracking software lol
Obviously I use Firefox personally. But it's actually decent.
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I'm sure some people will swap, but nah no way it's a meaningful loss
Ad blockers will still exist too, they just won't be as effective. If the layman installs an ad blocker and gets one less ad, they won't question it further
It won't do anything to their market share. At work my colleagues keep asking me "Why don't you use chrome?" or saying things like "Isn't Firefox slow?". They simply don't know or don't care to know. Also Firefox IS slow or just doesn't work, not because it's a bad browser but I've been seeing a trend of websites being designed to make it appear slow, like YouTube takes 5 extra secs on Firefox to load videos Clipcham and Adobe outright not supporting Firefox on their websites. The internet is a clown show.
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uBlock Origin has a Manifest V3 version, it's not going anywhere. I swear there are more people not reading anything here than Facebook.
Nah, there's a big difference between what and how much you're allowed to block in V2 vs V3 - the current status V2 adblock is way outside the range of V3's version.
I'd say V3 blockers can probably block at best 30% of what V2 can block. Which means it has to be selective. It essentially nuders the extension, making it worthless - an adblocker that only blocks some ads is not an adblocker at all. It's more of an ad restrictor, and in heavily monetized sites it might not even be that.
It has but i read somewhere its very limited and can be disabled by Google whenever they want.
I wonder what is the thought process here, why wouldn't someone who went the length of installing an adblocker look for other browsers as options?
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And everyone rediscovered Firefox and the world was at ease.
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