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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the most level-headed takes I've seen about the war.

Usually I hear either massively pro Israeli government things, the conflation of Hamas/Palestinians, or outright support for Palestine to be a free country, rarely with any nuance.

Nuance is massively important when discussing almost every issue. It's a shame to hear so few nuanced voices once war sparks. Not the first time either.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

outright support for Palestine to be a free country, rarely with any nuance.

Uh... How is that a take that needs nuance, exactly?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...Yeah, I probably should've specified a two (or three) state solution instead of dissolving Israel and replacing it with Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Because the notion of equal and non dissmissable human rights and international rules apparently is a radical take nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yup I think I'm going to have to share this a lot, especially with a lot of people here in the States that only know that Hamas sucks (which it does) but don't know the conditions in Gaza or what Israel has done to exacerbate this situation. It's the best take I've heard on the situation so far. That organization of parents of dead kids from both sides was the first thing to give me hope about this conflict in awhile.

The comment the last guy said was especially poignant. "Were going to have to either share this land, or share the graveyard underneath it."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Good to see John Oliver speak up for the civilians instead of picking one genocide over another.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I always wondered who John Oliver was. Especially after the whole r/pics thing lol.

Now I know, he's a newsreader? Edit: Nope, comedian, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's a comedian & actor who hosts a news comedy program that does a kind of gonzo journalism. It's generally pretty well researched in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's just not something that irked me enough to actually look up lol. Or watch the above video (I don't have the patience for videos)

[–] 2deck 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not available in Australia booo

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 2deck 3 points 1 year ago

Nice, thankyou!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It was when it was first posted but when I saved it to watch it later it was not so I had to use a proxy to see it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

This video is highly recommended by Tournesol community:
[54🌻] LastWeekTonight: Israel-Hamas War: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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