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Reddit is going crazy because they are calling him a millionaire. I'm sorry, but making a million dollars over the past decade makes him paid less than a regular developer, and 1 million dollars can't even buy you a crack shack in Canada.
Remember, Canada is the most expensive place to live. We have the most expensive housing and internet/data plans in the entire world.
Think logically. Don't think like childish Redditors.
Wait, Redditors are now bandwagoning on this slander too? I just figured it was a bullshit claim that u/spez made that the rest of the Reddit community saw through and weren't buying.
If there actually is a large number of people actually believing this shit, then my already rock-bottom hope for Reddit has somehow plummeted further.
Dude, it's the internet. People are dumb by default around here. (Me very well included.)
Every reddit thread about Apollo is filled with hate against Apollo and christian.
The message that's being repeated is that he's made millions of the poor backs of reddit and should be ashamed for taking advantage of the free api. Him asking to decline the refund is a scam/fraud to squeeze the last money he can from his poor users.
I would not be surprised to find out that the posts comes from bot farms or spez himself.
On the bright side, having Apollo on his resume should make landing a good dev job (assuming he didn't have one already) pretty easy.
He still shouldn't be on the hook for $250k though.
They will still ask him to invert a binary tree, just to be sure he can code
Millionaire absolutely doesn't mean what it did 30-40 years ago, too. Billionaire is a bit excessively high and isn't quite comparable to what millionaire used to be, and while of course most people have way less due to how the economy works, having a net worth of 1 million isn't a huge hurdle these days. We need a word for 100-millionaire. I'm sure Selig is not a 100-millionaire.
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Remember, Canada is the most expensive place to live.
and 1 million dollars can’t even buy you a crack shack in Canada.
Last I heard Winnipeg was part of Canada, and I'm seeing quite a lot of nice, sizable homes under a million dollars.
Oh, you mean specific cities in Canada? That leads us to this then:
No Canadian city made it into this top ten list.
None made it into this top ten list either.
We have the most expensive housing and internet/data plans in the entire world.
OK, let's look at internet plans.
Oops. Not only does Canada have nowhere near the most expensive Internet access, it's near the BOTTOM of costs relative to income worldwide!
Here's the other thing - he's maybe a millionaire, not a billionaire. That's middle class, maybe upper middle class if he's got other income
This is a normal person who just lost his job with little notice because of a greedy company, and, to add insult to injury, now has to come up with money for refunds out of the blue
I know I wouldn't feel good taking back that money, whether he can afford it or not
Strange understanding of middle class right there, that includes the top 5% of US American population.
He's not wrong. The owning class, the billionaires, are so ridiculously farther ahead that it makes millionaires middle class.
And this is why we need to tax them out of existence.
"Make Millionaires 'Rich' Again"
That may be as it is, but that does not make the richest 5% of any population middle class.
It absolutely does when 90% of the wealth is grouped in the top one or two percent.
The difference between a millionaire and a homeless person is tiny compared to the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire.
1 million dollars over the last decade is 100k a year. That's top 18% not top 5%. Top 5% would be over 350k a year. I'm just basing this off random Google stats so the numbers may shift a little but 100k is definitely upper middle class at best
A millionaire is a person who’s net worth is a million or more. As you noted that’s quite different from having had paychecks that sum up to a million.
Millionaires are definitely still well off but just to make a point: the average value of a US house is $450k. Add to this a $250k retirement fund and you're already up to 0.7M in net worth.
Does the average person in America also own an average house? Without knowing the statistics I think what you describe there might fit for upper middle class.
And there’s still quite a way to go before millionaire.
It definitely is upper middle income and I'm not trying to imply otherwise. It's just crazy to me that millionaires are so much closer to the average American than billionaires and corporations as far as income goes.
Are there really people who thought that a software dev who spends his time making a reddit app would be a billionaire?
It doesn’t say how to decline it in that article, will it just pop up after the shutdown date?
You should be prompted when opening after updating to the latest version.
I’m so glad there are still decent people who try to do the right thing. Then there are the people who run Reddit.
I just updated but there was no prompt for this, only the wallpaper prompt
Update: I checked the Apollo sub and apparently many lifetime plan users don't have the option to decline the refund. That's a shame... Hope they fix it soon or I'll just leave a tip tomorrow
I could be wrong, but my understanding was it's only for monthly plans. I don't think there are any automatic refunds for lifetime subscribers
Yeah that definitely makes sense. Thank you! I didn't remember there was a monthly subscription option and thought everyone bought one time because I got mine super early on
Good wallpapers, though
Did not get any other pop-ups after making a donation. Hopefully it will show up at some point.
This is hearbreaking news - and I'm a little shocked to realise that the creators of Apollo can't simply walk away from the app which got scuttled (or, more likely, actively sabotaged by deliberately extreme Reddit attack).
They should be able to take this to court to redirect the affected people to claim their refund from Reddit.
I am a bit confused about this. I paid a one time fee to Apollo for features but I would not expect him to refund that. I re-downloaded the app (deleted it 3 weeks ago when I left Reddit) and did not see the option to opt out of a refund. I want to make sure that Christian does not have to pay out for me.
I believe the refund is for people who paid for a yearly subscription. Those people will get a refund for approximately half the price they paid because they only got to use the app for half a year.
Which is a sensible policy, generally speaking.
It is only for the subscriptions that are still active and the refund is for the portion last July 1st
I still haven’t seen this option appear anywhere.
It was made available in the update that was released today. So you’ll need to update the app and then when you launch it after the update you should be presented with it.
I have the latest, but that never appeared. I tooted at Christian on Mastodon about it. We'll see if he responds.
Lmao is “toot” the equivalent of “tweet” on mastodon?
Yes, which is unfortunate is you’re American.
Huh?
“Toot” to Americans is another word for fart. I believe they use toot because it fits in with the Mastodon animal theme. Which makes sense. But when the whole twitter migration started, it was off-putting to a lot of people.
Ohh I gotcha! Lol that’s funny. I haven’t really checked out mastodon yet so am out of the loop
Try it out! It has taken off pretty well. Lots of big names from Twitter have moved over.
I sure will. Are there any good apps for it yet? Or just web based for now?
I use Ivory on iOS. It’s not free but I love it. It’s basically a port of Tweetbot. Then there’s Mammoth, which is free and great. I believe there’s an official app as well, but I haven’t tried it.
Mastodon.social is the largest instance, but it’s similar to Lemmy in that it’s federated. It also uses ActivityPub.
Today is a good day to join because it’s #FollowFriday. You can search that hashtag and find a lot of people to follow.
Oh heck yeah that’s right. I remember when tweetbot got the boot from Twitter and they made the ivory app now. I’m happy to pay for an app made by Tapbots.. they know how to make an app. Checking it out now.
