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We're at the end of our rope with Asda. Everything is being substituted, and we're fine with that when it's just another brand of the same thing but like they're sending entirely different vegetables to the ones we need, they're substituting meat-free ordered items with actual meatballs, etc etc. It's got the point where the delivery guy just apologises sadly every week.

It's possible to set "do not substitute" on everything but it's a ballache, and then we'd still have to go shopping anyway since half our order would still be missing.

So. Which supermarkets actually deliver most of what you order? Or at the very least, have a sane policy of substitutions?

Thanks!

Edit: Added a cute dog pic for a bit of extra casualness.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

These reasons plus the fact that any fresh fruit and veg picked by them seemed to be pot luck on if they were even in an edible state by the time we received them are why we stopped getting deliveries altogether.

We now go to aldi for as much as possible because it saves so much money compared to all the other mainstream supermarkets except for lidl.

Sorry I have no suggestions, just wanted to show some solidarity with you and your dislike for the frankly disgusting service they all now offer for their over priced shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It took me about five years to finally train my husband out of wasting his time going to the shops when we could just get things delivered instead. Looks like he might have the last laugh after all!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whilst it is far from my favourite activity I have always preferred going and doing it for myself, one main reason being the ability to choose my own meats or fresh produce etc so I am secretly glad that supermarkets fucking suck and it forced my gf to see the benefits of actually going there ourselves :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bah. If I'm being dragged to the shops I am definitely getting some sort of cake as a reward! 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't blame you to be fair, they are hell holes of civilisation reminding you why you dislike other people so much. I hope by cake you mean whole Sara Lee double chocolate gateux xD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Well now you've mentioned it. Let's add one to the list for next week and see what actually turns up...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unless they've got a disability preventing them from doing the grocery themself, I don't know why anyone would ever want to let someone else choose fresh produces for them in the first place...

Grocery delivery from normal stores (vs specialized services) was never intended to be the way most people would do their grocery. They don't have enough staff to take care of it properly and since it doesn't increase their profits vs people going there directly (which they have to do anyway because food is essential), they won't hire more, so the staff is just rushing to fill up orders as they come and won't bother looking for the best product like people would in person.

Time might be precious, but you're probably wasting a whole lot of it trying to fix whatever got delivered instead of what you expected.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

To be fair. The main reason stores want delivery to become the way. Is because running a customer facing shop is a huge cost. Compared to a warehouse. The main difference in cost is the 2nd level transport to your door. Hence why they are all shuffling the delivery prices atm.

As with many industories, Corps are desperate to move out of high foot fall areas. Where building costs etc cannot be reduced. Or more to the point move to much smaller real estate in those areas, local like stores. Add the costs of keeping a area designed for the public safe and clean vs a work area where display is not important and staff can be expected to follow safety rules(IE as long as they are told not to do that. The corp ain't held responsible. As often).

Then add how much work it is for corps trying to sell stuff with shorter sell by dates. Emploee picking and delivery makes that much more manageable. Reducing waist.

Basically ATM its more of a cost to the corps. But the corps def see a future where it not only becomes more profitable. But solves a huge nomber of threats they see coming down the road, related to property location.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The problem you're going to have, especially with substitute items is that the staff don't really have the time to be picky with what they're picking. Often the gun will select something that's in a different location, which means they've got to trek elsewhere to get it....or they can keep to their times, select something else entirely and move on with their pick; especially in the run up to Christmas where there's a massive influx of untrained staff who frankly, couldn't give a shit.

Obviously there's going to be a bit of shift from store to store, company to company, but I think there's a general view that if the customer is that put out by the subs, they'll just come and get their shopping in store next time, or they won't and another customer will fill the slot.

It's bad for customers and bad for colleagues, but the bosses just don't give a crap. £££ go up.

Anyway. Forgive my moan. I don't really have anything meaningful to add to this. Maybe give Ocado a look? They tend to be a bit pricier but I imagine, given the nature of their business that getting it right on the doorstep is the be all and end.

*I worked in a Sainsbury's supermarket for fifteen years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Cheers, tbh I doubt we have access to Ocado round here but it's getting to the point where if we do, pricier might actually be worth it! Will look into it. (Update: nope)

Moaning and solidarity also appreciated, I wrote this post after we got today's substitutions list and it's more of an off-my-chest moment than anything else :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Nah I get it. I've had substitutes before and there's so many, and they happen so often that I question why I'd even risk it to begin with.

Same goes with these new Deliveroo type ordering services, they're wrong just enough that I'm almost ready to give up with them completely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Frankly it's going to depend on the state of the store or CFC that covers your patch, subs are caused by poor stock routines more than anything. That said ASDA has been going to trash round me for a long time now. I only go there for the occasional bit that I need to pick up right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense I suppose, just thought there might be some sort of pattern to emerge from the replies to give us a clue where to start experimenting. Mostly the pattern seems to be they're all shite, which I probably shouldn't be surprised at haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, as I said it's going to be based on region. If you are served out of a store you can at least go in and have a look at how well it is run and how well things are kept stocked. The pickers pick off the same shelves as regular shoppers there. CFCs are a bit more of a black box but in theory they work better because you can run everything so much more smoothly and predictively. In practice though pickers there are far more overloaded and there is less ability to break from the plan and there is just less backstock in general. If someone drops a case of jam then that might be all there is until tomorrow.

Only real thing you can do is give them a go. It's worth remembering that Tesco and Asda are independent, but Morrisons, Waitrose, M&S, and Ocado might actually be working out of the same site.

The other option is meal kit delivery. I know some people who use HelloFresh and they seem to be generally pleased with it. There are some mistakes but they keep using them so it can't be terrible.

[–] wzdd 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Waitrose used to make you click "do not substitute" for each item but a while ago they added a "no substitutions" checkbox for the whole order. (Their substitutions are not sane.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

God that sounds so much better!

[–] NickwithaC 3 points 7 months ago

Upvote for sleepy dog!

The only one I've used is Morrison's. It's worked out OK for me although their time slot is more of a suggestion.

[–] Apepollo11 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Honestly can't say a bad word against Morrisons - at least from a customer point of view.

I do feel bad for the drivers who seem to have gigantic catchment areas, but they're always friendly, the bags are well packed, and the subs are sane.

Note: we do still buy things like meat in-store, because we're picky.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

+1 for Morrisons. They don't often sub and when they do it's usually not completely mad. We found it was significantly better than the others. I think it's because they use Ocado's tech rather than whatever bodge the other supermarkets have come up with.

Ocado was also good when we tried it ages ago but of course quite pricey (and the last thing I need is easier access to Percy Pigs).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This bodes well for the fact that we've just booked an experimental Morrisons slot for next week!

Our Asda driver is great too tbf, although he is maybe getting a bit too familiar with our shopping habits so it was probably time to mix it up anyway 😅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I know I am very late to respond, but amazons grocery service had an option to accept or decline replacements while the employee is picking them if you have the app open. They use Morrisons inventory iirc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It very much depends on your area. The discretionary part will vary from shop to shop. The ones we use in the NE have been fine for the many years we have used them with the exception of veggies of late. Brexit has made veggies a pain for superstores it seems. I buy those in person so I can see what I am getting.

Milk tends to be smashed around for some reason. It is becoming a regular thing now where milk is leaking due to abuse. This leads to us handing the leaking milk back to the delivery guy/girl, where it is refunded and handed back to us to get rid of. This is not the bonus you would expect, as we have to then clean up the spilled milk that has been sitting under the leaky container.

What we could never fault is the attitude of the people who run the deliveries. We use either Sainsburys, Asda or Morrisons. I have no idea why my wife swaps between them. I don't order the shopping online.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She could be trying to avoid a situation like we got into recently where our delivery guy started making personal recommendations based on what he's picked up about our habits. If you cycle between them, they get to know you less! 😄

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I just asked, she says that she chooses the one that has the stuff in she likes. She also says that Sainsburys are the best for sending the least substitutions, but they tend to be more expensive overall.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The only one that has been good is Waitrose. Difficulty when you live near a small store, because they don't have the range.

Asda is always a disaster. Hell, you don't get the stuff you want when you physically go to the shop.

Tesco is ok.

If you have the money, use Waitrose. The reputation is deceptive as their budget range is as good as some of the other supermarkets super-duper and less than the cost. You will order nice stuff too, order less kale to make up for it! 🤣😂