Wow that thing is fucked.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2023
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That third hit was right on the money.
Heey vive la France!
I know there are English missiles too and our Ukrainian heroes too of course but happy to pay taxes in the country that delivered the blow!
Slava Ukraine!
thanks to our friends in France, this evening we have a lovely Russian Warship Purée..
The French have to be loving it, any ship hit in port by a French missile is sorta making up for the lost fleet of ww2.
And yes I'm still sour about Richelou being scrapped by italians if that weren't obvious.
Vive la France! Thank you for your compassionate support! 🇺🇦❤️🇫🇷
Russian Warship, Go Fuck Yourself Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй
These cruisers only cost approximately $34 million to manufacturer. How are they so cheap? That's like a rounding error in the cost to build a US destroyer.
The biggest factor is their overall size. A Russian Karakurt class corvette (of which the OP ship is a member) displaces 860 tons, while a US Arleigh Burke class destroyer displaces over 11x as much weight at 9.700 tons. That combined with significantly lower wages in Russia pretty much accounts for the entire difference.
Additionally, the Burke's superstructure clearly has much more 'stuff' on it than a Karakurt does, so in addition to being much larger, a Arleigh Burke is going to be much more capable at various tasks.
US destroyer
I know the US calls them destroyers, but they are the size of a WWII light cruiser. The Atlanta class light cruisers displace 8.300 tons; they are actually lighter than a modern Arleigh Burke destroyer!
Additionally, the Burke's superstructure clearly has much more 'stuff' on it than a Karakurt does, so in addition to being much larger, a Arleigh Burke is going to be much more capable at various tasks.
It has 90 missile cells compared to 8, anti submarine ability (compared to none), multiple different radar sets and triple fire control systems, 2 helicopters, and it'll go 4000 miles vs 2000.
Apart from both of them floating (hehe) there's really no comparison.
American ships have to be able to extend their coverage across some big areas, which requires bigger boats and all the manpower and resources that takes. Russia only worries about Russia.
Thank you so much for this response! I had no idea.
To start with, they aren't cruisers. This is a missile corvette, the closest equivalent in the US fleet would be a littoral combat ship. That may not look much better in terms of cost, but to generalize on displacement/capability corvette -> frigate -> destroyer -> cruiser. The Russian ship here featured 8x VLS capable of Calibur missiles and a ship borne Pantzir air defense system. By way of comparison my country is building a new class of frigate which will carry 8x Naval Strike Missiles, 24x Sea Ceptor missiles, 24x multirole VLS, 2x twin 324mm torpedo launchers, and a helicopter (some guns etc). Hopefully that gives an idea of how important it is to not randomly use terms like "cruiser" for any ship painted grey by certain media outlets.
Oooh, that's gonna leave a mark.
Bro that's not just a mark, hitting a vessel in port is fucking rout worthy. If you can't protect your port from a country with no navy you're proper fucked, ask vichey france. They had one of the largest most modern fleets and it took like a single day of bombing to put them on the sea floor.
Delightful. Do it again.
Beautiful work