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[โ€“] rustyfish 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Queen H1 to F1?

Edit: Iโ€™m still an idiot.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pg2

Edit: Apparently I'm being downvoted by somebody who doesn't understand white starts on row 1

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Qd3 Bg3 I think, followed by promotion

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[โ€“] jafea7 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what I would have thought, leaves the King nowhere to go and there's nothing to block/capture the Queen.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] jafea7 4 points 1 year ago

Doh! My bad, 40+ years since I played.

I'll shut up now ๐Ÿค

[โ€“] Bytemeister 3 points 1 year ago

Pawn to G2?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bc6 Rb2 Trying to mate on g2 and defending.

I'm not sure where to go from there, either bg2+ or nf4+

Either case I can't find a forced mate in my head atleast

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good start. You don't have to calculate all the way to mate in that line, White gets an overwhelming advantage.

But more interestingly: What do you do after Bc6 Rb1+?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. Bc6 Rb1+

  2. Ke2 Rxh1

  3. Bg2+ Kxg2

  4. Nf4+ Kg1

  5. Ke1 g2

  6. Ne2

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Does it work if black declines to take the queen?

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
  1. Bc6 Rb1+

  2. Ke2 Rxh1

3.Bg2+ Kxg2

4.Nf4+ Kg1

5.Ke1 G2

6.Ne2#

Edit K for knight to N

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It appears I'm an idiot too

I'm very new to chess annotation and i keep using k for knight and king.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nicely done! You solved the main (study) line. There's other lines where Black actually holds out longer, but they're much simpler to calculate.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happens if black declines the queen? Too lazy to calculate it out at this point

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Anything it seems. But I'm probably missing a lot

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It seems to be open ended if black doesn't take queen, though

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What's interesting is if black moves to Rf4 and ignores the queen i see how it gets very open ended

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bishop moves to g2 checkmate of it doesn't check the king.

If it does then the king walks back towards the rook. Until it takes it or the rook doesn't check the king ending the game

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It gets all very messy if black doesn't take the bate it seems

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In what position? After 1. Bc6 Rb1+ 2. Ke2 Rb2+ 3. Kd3 Black doesn't have anything but spite checks. And if ...g2, White can now safely go Qc1 with quick checkmate to follow via Qh6+ (since g2 is covered by the bishop).

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I need the reddit bot to try it online.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No that's no good either, then castle comes to check

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hang on im still onto it.

New plan

Bc6

Rb1 checking king

Kd2

Rb2 checking King

Kc1

Rook must leave or be taken. Anywhere doesnt matter.

Qg2 checkmate

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right, but what about 1. Bc6 Rb1+ 2. Kd2 Rxh1?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (17 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Does it involve Ke2, Pg2, Qe1? Ending with Qc1, Qh6

Edit nvm I'm dumb

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately no. After 1. Ke2 g2 2. Qe1 Black has a simple way to win the queen, and after 2. Qc1 Black can at at the very least promote the pawn and there will never be a checkmate for White.

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[โ€“] notaviking 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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