For people who stay out of it.
WE HAD A GOOD THING YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH!
We had 3PA's, we had all the free labor in the world, just from passionate people who wanted to share the things they love, we had bots to fight spam, and extremely talented developers who made your stupid website work on mobile. It all ran like clockwork, if you could have just shut your mouth we'd all be fine right now.
But no, you just had to blow it up. YOU, AND YOUR GREED AND YOUR EGO.
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Interesting that they can afford that. Christian from Apollo was quite transparent on why that’s financially impossible for him especially with people having bought subscriptions in advance based on the old cost.
Still, unless Apollo comes back and they revert their stupid Regulations regarding Modtools and NSFW Content, I’m not going to spend another minute on that platform.
Hope this clown of a CRo they have loses his position over this.
Absolutely agree. According to a few articles, reddit isn’t that profitable. But apart from paying for servers, what overhead do they have? Most all of the mods were volunteers. Content creators are volunteers (I mean, we’re the content creators after all). Now after having some (still very little) experience with Lemmy, most of the cost goes to the servers, which many of the server hosts here are posting patreons in order to keep things running which I think is great! I love that setup. I’d have no problem paying a small amount to help with hosting.
Think of Wikipedia… they’re still a donation only website. If that site turns to only seek profit it would really shift the way Wikipedia works and what it presents.
Reddit had reddit premium, buying those awards and stuff and the ad revenue. I’d really really like to see how it isn’t profitable unless the higher ups are just greedy and are expecting millions of dollars for sending their people to go to board meetings.
I am unsure how many ppl they had employed. I read they let go of 5% of the developers. So I guess a lot of money is put there. But I am unsure how much they work on stuff that we as users can see. Growing a business cost a lot of money so much that most just sell their company (merge) so an other company can help out with that who have already grown and got the money. I heard they wanted to go public, so I guess there will be an other meme stock soon 😂
I am fine with them asking for money but they should ask for something that makes sense not so much so in a year it would cost 20M...
At some point last year they had 1400 employees. One thousand fucking four hundred.
For a link aggregation site.
It was 2000 when they just let go of 5% of them.
Holly shit!!! That is a lot! How were they even able to have so many ppl? I thought they were max 50 maybe even only 20 lol
Reddit is one of the most trafficked website on the internet. Their infrastructure department alone is likely hundreds of people. Their non-infrastructure developers is probably also in the hundreds. Technology operations another few dozen. Security/cyber another few dozen. General technology staff probably makes up well over half of their payroll. Then consider HR, legal, regulatory-related positions, facilities, etc. it can add up quickly.
Yeah. I really wonder why they are not profitable, lol.
lolll are these the fucks i've been arguing with for the last year
I am fine with them asking for money but they should ask for something that makes sense not so much so in a year it would cost 20M…
That's called the "fuck you" price. He knew how ridiculous that price was. He didn't negotiate with the 3rd party devs to try and find a solution that let's reddit earn a profit on API access and lets the devs earn a share for themselves. The whole thing was meant to burn the devs with the pipe dream that reddit could charge the ML/AI corps to train off our conversations. That horse left the barn 2 years ago.
They probably have a bunch of useless "business analysts" who are trying to keep their teams' morning meetups while calculating how fucked they are.
I'm surprised some can afford that. In the FAQ for RIF, the developer said he'd have to charge around $10 per month and said that with that there probably won't be enough demand to make it worth his while maintaining it. RIF seemed like one of the more efficient apps when it came to API calls too.
i am beyond fucking sick of watching companies destroy beautiful sites and communities.
so many losses just in the calendar fucking year!! zero fucking wins, no pitching, no bats, we just have to constantly regroup and move on, shedding our past lives
Yeah man, at least the communities I love are pretty tech savvy (programming, web, open source, gaming), so it wasn't much of a hassle to do the jump.
But I just think of all those cool woodworking, cooking, music playing, history searching, drawing communities that just wanted to share something they loved, they will have it harder to accommodate to a new home and it breaks my heart.
All of these used to live in independent forums until they were lured in into Reddit and as of 2015 they all were there so the enshittification began. All Web 2.0 platforms ran by megacorps begin with blazing fast convenient services, nowadays even Google Search is rigged and next to useless now. Google Images with superior search tools, sort by oldest, no SEO bullshit, view image and reverse image search were all present in 2014.
Look how long it takes to load and compare it to modern GS
https://oldgoogle.neocities.org/2011/
Almost sounds like you're talking about the Mets
*Red Sox
We are all LARPing exodii from cdda at this point already
Same. It's been truly heartbreaking watching spez destroy it like this. I think this catharsis was needed and overdue, but it came on so suddenly. I hope in 15 yrs we will look back and thank spez for handling this so terribly as it was the catalyst needed for something new to crystalize.
The Web needs to return to the standard of function and resource consumption it had in 2013 or earlier.
The way spez has dealt with it is embarassing
Venture capital and the centralized big tech Internet needs to finally crash and burn. Federation is a return to form, web forums were the shit until Reddit and Discord swallowed them up and the latter holding info hostage with a login wall and no client freedom
Let's not forget that Discord requires a phone-number.
Which ones?
I guess I can't blame them for trying to keep the product they spent years building alive (talking about app devs)
I think Relay is looking into charging $3 a month.
I linked the archived announcement of the Infinity dev in the fuck u/Spez part :(. I just loved that damn app dude.
Yeah, it's not the devs fault at all, I would have payed full price for that thing (it actually had an "Infinity plus" version which is exactly the same but priced xD), but now the money wouldn't go to him, only to these reddit assholes.
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I am in awe of how impostor syndrome types seem only good at wrecking things.