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YouTube is now fully blocking ad blockers around the world (9to5google.com)
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[–] krigo666 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No it's not, ad blocker is working perfectly... :)

Now even more seriously, the amount of ads and how aggressive they are is what led to people using adblockers. It's ridiculous having to see 2 full 20 sec ads at the beggining and then interrupting as it pleases every 3 or 4 mins. On top of that the ads are all lies or manipulation. Fuck Google and their shitty ads.

YouTube Premium? LMAO! Not worth the price, if they had a simpler cheaper tier, just for no ads, 2€ per month I'd might consider it. 8.50€? Fucking rip off. Again, fuck Google.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, going back to that many ads would annoy me now, but I dealt with it in the day, the thing that finally got me to start adblocking everything were ads that would crash the video players, and ads that would play for like 10 minutes but were skippable after 20 seconds. I play stuff in the background all the time , I shouldn't have to actively monitor an ad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For me, it's always volume on ads. Ads are usually like 5x louder than what you're watching so it's just an assault on your ears.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Youtube premium really only makes sense if you're going to use youtube music as well, in which case its a decent value. At least here in the states, spotify is $11/month whereas youtube premium is $14/month.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have hated the trend of companies bundling services to charge more instead of separating it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I'd much rather it be piecemeal with the option of bundling it, don't get me wrong. It's just a bit misleading to try to frame it as only ad free youtube

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When it comes to these forced bundles if the added service isn't something I'd pay I just price it at what they are asking for, since whether it includes extra doesn't matter when there isn't a choice to separate it. It's just an approach I've taken due to services like PS+ paywalling multiplayer while I didn't care about the "free games".

[–] krigo666 3 points 1 year ago

I have absolutely no interest in music streaming services. I discover the music on Youtube, yes, but if I like the band enough I buy the download. Specially since my music tastes are non mainstream.

[–] Sterile_Technique 2 points 1 year ago

Better to donate that $11 or $14 / mo to uBlock Origin - that way you're paying people who are actually providing a service to you. With YouTube (Google) you're not the consumer, you're the product.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

even better deal if you're still grandfathered into the $9.99/mo tier like I am. I know they said they would increase those prices... but so far not

[–] HowManyNimons 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YouTube is increasing Firefox's market share all around the world.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Chrome is working hard to get that sweet internet explorer status

[–] weeahnn 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still wondering how this will play out in the EU.

[–] krigo666 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It might actually be illegal in the EU for them to run scripts to detect ad blockers without asking permission first.

[–] weeahnn 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I'm really curious about how this will play out. I just hope that people will be the ones benefiting from this shitshow and not Youtube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

YouTube is a for-profit service run by a company. If they can't make it profitable due to low premium adoption or regulation there will be less freedom to post/view stuff on there. There will be no upside for users.

Everyone should really reevaluate their stance on premium services and the value they get out of them. The time of free is over - even something like lemmy needs funding.

[–] Ottomateeverything 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So then they'll just embed them into the video, refuse to serve the video until the time is up, etc. Running clientside snooping scripts is only one way for them to enforce this. The idea that EU law will somehow force YouTube to just serving you content without ads is entirely copium.

[–] Moneo 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A black screen is infinitely less annoying than an ad. I don't see google winning this battle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, been common for sports streams where you get a notification that game is on break or something and play will resume once game starts again. Preferable over ads to me.

[–] Ottomateeverything 2 points 1 year ago

OK? That's still not Google "losing" some battle. The point was the legality of their current implementation isn't going to change whether they give in and just serve you the content like the OP was claiming

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So? Let them make those changes then. That’s additional complexity and effort. They absolutely scoped that implementation against the one they chose and chose not to do it. Forcing them to spend the effort is still meaningful.

[–] xkforce 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You really dont want them embedding ads into videos like that. There'd be no blocking them and no way to download them without the ads baked right into the video file.

[–] Moneo 4 points 1 year ago

People will figure out a sponsorblock-esque crowdsourced ad detection that auto skips everything that isn't part of the video.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

SponserBlock provides defenses against that with minor modifications.

It's been suggested that that would be an absolute last ditch effort because it trashes your ability to display targeted ads or update them without absolutely wrecking your CDNs. You also can't have the ad link to anything because that would allow the client to trivially detect and skip it.

Ad Nauseam also provides the nuclear option of downloading the ads, pretending to display them, and even pretending to click them. You might still have to wait out the delay for while the ad should be playing for the first ad, but once you get past that they can't prevent the player skipping ads without also preventing you skipping 30s of boring content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That’s a significantly less profitable ad model. If they wanna shoot themselves, let them

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My ad blocker is still working :p

[–] Quetzalcutlass 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

uBlock contributors were pumping out filter updates like crazy these past few weeks. There was a constant tug of war as Google kept patching YouTube again every time they got adblock working again. Their tracker for YouTube issues has received something like a thousand comments since this all started.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I'm not going to watch 60 seconds of make-money-online scam ads just to watch some stupid cat video. They're really overestimating the value of Youtube "content." It's mostly frivolous crap. If they cap it to an ad per hour or something maybe. But it's out of control.

[–] Muhr 8 points 1 year ago

Still working for me with Firefox

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Useful links:

[–] krigo666 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also useful! Thanks :).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

My ad blocker works wonderfully. Meanwhile, I'm starting to contribute with content on Peertube. It's something at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All ads made me do is use newpipe on Android and Freetube on desktop.

[–] Sterile_Technique 3 points 1 year ago

I've got 3 or 4 different ad blockers installed just to cover the gaps in when YouTube finds a way around uBlock Origin for a couple days.

Still doing their job as of now. 🤞

[–] RizzRustbolt 2 points 1 year ago

Seems Satisfactory.