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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The lack toilets in every imaginable place is insultingly ableist and very degrading. It's like people are ashamed we're fucking people and need to piss and shit all the time. And then the cops have the gull to threaten me with fines when I take a leak under a tree in a park. You literally treat dogs better than people.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people like dogs, but they don't like other people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah but there's a reason for that. Dogs are great, humans not so much. Dogs are innocent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If its anything like Vancouver, its quite possibly in response to doing absolutely nothing about a homelessness crisis and the open drug use that results from that. So yeah, ablist and degrading, as well as anti poor

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In what country you can get permits without a bathroom????

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At first I though "surely this is about the US", but no, even in the US at least some states require public bathrooms in all coffee shops, cafe, restaurants etc. Some states have exceptions depending on the size of the establishment and some states do not have this regulation at all.

I also just checked Dutch and some other countries' laws. Public bathrooms are required for new establishments with no exceptions. I have not found a EU-wide regulation though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Vancouver, B.C. Canada Checking in, bathrooms are only required if you have indoor seating, so a lot of places didnt reinstall their tables post pandemic, and thus kept their washrooms closed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes I am indeed dutch but even here in Ecuador (14y now) I have not heard of a bar without a piss spot at the very least

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They have bathrooms, but they're employee only.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude seriously you can't piss at places? Dude

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just piss on the floor until they get the message to open up the bathroom to the public. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can either deny nor confirm that I have done that at a trainstation in Culemborg

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Land of the free. Yeah I know downvote me for replies thrice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Say that three times

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Insane. Greetings from the rest of the world **

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Just go home. I'd rather have a no-coffee-buyer than a defecator" -Latte Larry

[–] Sterile_Technique 15 points 1 year ago

Provide a restroom, or become the restroom.

[–] setsneedtofeed 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

S05E18

I’ve got my eye on you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

God damn, lol

[–] DasherPack 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here it is compulsory. I am very surprised to hear that in the USA it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's honestly pretty rare for places to not have one in the US unless you're in the downtown part of a major city. Sometimes when walking downtown, it feels like every shop's bathrooms are staff-only.

[–] DasherPack 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here we have laws that even include the allowed ratio between bathroom stalls and clients

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] DasherPack 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The ADA has bathroom/stall quantity requirements in the US for certain types of businesses. Our machine shop almost had to put in more toilets despite us having 3 toilets and 3 employees. I believe it's based off of square footage. We are also required to have 28 parking spots for literally no reason.

[–] CADmonkey 1 points 1 year ago

In mamy states in the US it is a requirement for any place serving food and drink to have a bathroom.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

where i live we have minimal tap water flow at night due to drought, and coffeeshops like to pull this 'wc is closed since water is off' and now i am stuck with a ton of caffeine filling my bladder :(

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most toilets will flush when you add enough water to the bowl. So really if enough people pee it's a self someone solving problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

exactly. pee is not really a problem, and the odor could still be manageable with minimum sanitation. A coffeeshop with open wc would earn its owner a lot of love points, and probably more clients too.

[–] Omgpwnies 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where I live functional washrooms are required by code, and the coffeeshop would have to close until they are able to make the washroom functional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

it is functional, but they close it so they could cut costs (cleaning, water). They pull this at night, when regulatory body is off-duty

[–] Treczoks 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like an American problem to me. Right?

[–] Elivey 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

From what I've heard Europe is way more gatekeepey with their bathrooms. Having ones you have to pay for? It's extremely rare for a place to not have a bathroom here, even in a city.

Edit: I think I grew up in one of the states where they're pretty strict about having bathrooms. Blue states rule lol

[–] Treczoks 2 points 1 year ago

Well, it is public bathrooms you have to pay for here, as they are run commercially. But each place that offers food or drink and where you can sit down (so e.g. a food vendor cart is excempt) has to have free toilets for their customers. Some might be better, some might be worse (I've been in a McD in a ... not so well off part of a town and it was horrible - you had to ask for a key, and they had this horrible, dim bluish light that is supposed to reduce drug use). But customers toilets are free.

A friend of ours had a restaurant at a hiking trail in a forest, and he had put up a donation box for those who just wanted to use a toilet without eating or drinking there, which I consider fair.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, we're well known for not having free and publicly accessible bathrooms.

... Wait, I though you said "Germany".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

PSA: it's only doo-doo juice if it is made in civet or made in pachyderm