I really hate how over bearing all the sports betting has become in the NFL and other sports and can see how it could be confusing for players. But if the rumors of him betting on NFL games, including Colts games are true, that’s past the point of a stupid mistake. He could be lucky to get away with just a year suspension.
this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2023
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As long as he doesn’t bet on them to lose, should it even be a problem?
@bl4ckblooc @goldenjoe6 of course it's a problem if he's betting on Colts games, he's got inside knowledge on game plans. The NFL needs to be as transparent as they can be with their players about what can and cannot be bet on and where the bets can be placed and where they cannot be.
Wouldn’t all the game plans be to win though? They are already physically betting on themselves to win.
@bl4ckblooc right, but he was betting on the run game, rushing stats and the like, something they would know about more compared to your average person placing bets. To me that's a clear violation and something the NFL is looking to avoid.
Okay, that makes sense. I want really thinking about beta other than win/loss.
@bl4ckblooc Yea, the fact that a DB with game plan knowledge is betting on that kind of stuff really shows the NFL hasn't thought this through. I get that it takes time and you gotta weed out the players that'll bet no matter what but all the information needs to be out there. Take the Jamison Williams case, "betting on team facilities", he was at a hotel the team was traveling to. Apparently that's a team facility and nobody on the Lions knew this? This info needs to be more clear.
This is kinda like the NFL hits videos to me. Seems disingenuous to promote gambling during the commercial break, then demonize the players for it.
But I'm apparently getting old and think gambling doesn't need to be/should be pushed.
If the gambling could affect their play, then punish them.
Otherwise, who cares?
I mean in a perfect world, sure. But add in any reality and of course they're going to bet on games they're a part of. It almost destroyed baseball (black socks), and severely hurt the reputation of baseball (Astros) and basketball (refs). I don't follow any of those sports really, but those are off the top of my head.
Everyone said this would happen and sure enough there it is.
Players are apparently warned very frequently not to gamble, so of course they had notice. The NFL also has to know their constant gambling promos are going to affect people. I'm also willing to believe there are players who gamble using their friends/family as proxies.
Ultimately the NFL had a big hand in creating this problem, but the players (who are absolutely responsible) are the ones who bear the brunt of the blowback.
It's a really weird dynamic. The NFL's mentality is just do as I say, but not as I encourage 300 million people to do.
I know literally next to nothing about gambling, but it feels like it should have some of the NIL problems in College Football. It just strikes me as odd that if I were an NFL player, people could bet on me or my team's performance, and I get no licensing cut or anything. And, if I do it, for other teams or maybe even other sports, I get suspended from my job.
I get that the NFL is trying to avoid a Pete Rose situation, but by suspending players, moving a team to Vegas, and so many owners having large stakes in these gambling companies, it feels like they're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Well at least its not us again, I hope.
Such a stupid ass rule though given how hard they push gambling commercials. As long as its not on football, let em bet.
Yeah I don't really get the no betting on any sport while at the facilities.