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[–] Cosmicomical 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was ok. Certainly not on level with loki, wandavision or moonknight, but not bad either. But I especially didn't like the feige part, and the ending itself, and breaking the fourth wall, which is something i didnt like in deadpool either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Breaking the fourth wall is She-Hulk's thing as much as Deadpool's. The ending is actually based on a famous moment in one of She-Hulk comics where they flee from a bad guy by literally running through the comic book.

[–] Cosmicomical 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm not saying the tv show is diverging from the comic book, just that i don't like that kind of pre-baked postmodernist stuff. As I said, the show was fine, i don't agree with most of the critiques that have been thrown at it.

[–] malloc 4 points 1 year ago

I remember watching the first season. It wasn’t bad but also not good, far from the best. It’s hardly memorable. I do remember lines and dialogue were kind of forced or not cohesive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@Grapetruth It's both, really liked some of the beats of the show, some of the CGI is spotty at point but tbh understandable with the staff being overworked, and I watch early 2000s movies with bad CGI all the time and still love it, so it's not a big deal in my eyes.

[–] Sarmyth 4 points 1 year ago

I liked it. I wish it was a little longer, so we had a better character build for her. I say that about most Disney+ shows, though. I get they're expensive, but they're also the largest media empire on earth. They monetize the show far outside the initial run of it anyways so it would be nice to give some of these shows a better chance of hooking people during the first season with a few more episodes and a less rushed story.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It was bad. Just like The Secret Invasion was bad, bit with a male lead. There you go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I never watched it because from what I saw in ads and clips people posted it didn't look lile something I'd enjoy. I can't say if it's bad or not because I haven't watched it.

I think a lot of people who felt the same way are shitting on it regardless of if they watched it or not. Just watch it yourself and form your own opinions. Everyone has their own tastes. If you don't like it skip it and watch something else

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's pretty dumb. It's lame to accuse people of bigotry because they don't enjoy a TV show.

[–] Omegamanthethird 2 points 1 year ago

There are many reasons people don't like the show, misogyny, the different tone compared to everything else in the MCU, putting established characters in a different tone than they're used to, and then other more substantial complaints about writing, CGI, etc.

It's often a mixed bag and I've seen a lot of people blame the writing when it was really one of the other factors. Personally, I loved it.

[–] Thermal_shocked 2 points 1 year ago

The same actress was in orphan black and played multiple roles. It's not a woman issue, it's a bad show - https://youtu.be/5LQ7B4TFOu4?si=fL6Miy18eUnKNKBW

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Grapetruth

I thought most of it was fun. But I really didn't like the finale. I know breaking the 4th wall is in her comic, but they just broke it too hard. Any emotional stakes that may have existed were blown away. And now, the MCU has to either ignore She-Hulk or fix it.

[–] Grapetruth 1 points 1 year ago

Why did you tag me? I'm just wondering because some people do it and some don't

[–] jordanlund 0 points 1 year ago

There was really only one episode so bad I turned it off and I think that was 4? Or maybe 5? Both were bad but only one was bad enough to turn off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does the OP think that She-Hulk ‘got bad ratings’ when it was one of the two most viewed Marvel shows on Disney last year?

That’s right, more people spent more minutes watching She-Hulk than anything other than Loki, including content from other Disney franchises.

Social media outrage & negative review brigading on IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes from a demographic that is mainly male, a certain age & American doesn’t actually represent the majority of those of us paying for Disney+.

Women subsidize content designed for that market all the time,,why the outrage when the rest of the market gets something to their tastes?

[–] Grapetruth 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was primarily basing it on reviews and ratings including IMDb tbh. Fair point, but just out of curiosity, if IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes are unreliable due to review bombing/etc for often reasons unrelated to the project itself (including wanting to "restore the Snyderverse" and boycott Warner Bros, or not liking the fact that a remake of something classic was made in the first place, or political objection to the themes expressed)... what is a good source for determining what the actual public consensus on a show or movie is, ideally with a numeral rating guide like IMDb/Rotten Tomatoes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Any social media crowdsourced rating is going to be vulnerable to review bombing/brigading.

You can get some sense of the perspectives with IMDb if you look at not just the score but the distribution of scores (available in the app). A huge spike of 1/10s tells the story.

It’s not that bona fide statisticians can’t get useful data out of crowdsourced surveys, but a public platform like those ones attracts brigading and the score is not adjusted for demographic balance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its one-dimentional. "She's awesome, men are shit". Its kind of fun for first 3-4 episodes after which it gets tiresome, because its just more of the same. There's no character development, because she's awesome from start. There's no obstacles to overcome. Its like playing a game in god mode. Fun for a moment.

Try it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it was probably more amusing when you know the: "men are usesless and women are perfect"
But the worst part of the show for me is just that it's very very boring. They kinda treat the audience like idiots.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek -1 points 1 year ago

I didn't mind it until right at the end. The last episode of two totally ruined it for me. Breaking the 4th wall was unnecessary and awkward, and they screwed up a perfectly fine ending with their jarring 'subverting expectations' approach.

[–] mlg -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's post endgame marvel content, which means it was made with a pre established equation from Disney.

So you'll see the exact same story flow, humor, and acting as every other marvel franchise, with very little originality beyond the premise.

Which means it's mediocre depending on your tastes.

What makes she hulk specifically unenjoyable though is the very obviously shoehorned diversity requirement by Disney. I want to be clear I'm not anti progressive in any way, but it really comes off as "We threw in this fad from Twitter to make you happy" type of material. Not something well thought out or interesting that many children's shows often do much better.

The plot and characteristics of the main character are still kinda dumb. Hulk gets sidelined as some useless dude. The ending was really stupid. And there's too much random stuff related to other marvel things which makes it harder for the show to stand out on its own or get new viewers interested.

It's really a hit or miss on whether or not you enjoy it, because there are some people who like this generation of marvel stuff, even though I personally find it really boring and not very well written.

On a somewhat related note, Ms Marvel had similar issues. The plot was dumb, the character was dumb, and the writing/acting played the very same with the same type of jokes and humor. It was kind of an insult to the comic because it completely missed the point of the original source material and instead was formed into another cookie cutter marvel franchise.

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[–] LemmyIsFantastic -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's nearly trash. Most of the women marvel/dc based shit is trash. You have Wanda vision and birds being good. The rest are mediocre at best and that's not due to misogyny.

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[–] LurkNoMore -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When daredevil did the walk of shame in his suit only barefoot was the moment I officially labeled the series crap.

[–] LurkNoMore -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: removed my comment. After seeing other downvoted comments I know what's going on here and it's not worth it.

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