Ugh, fuck that. I'll have to bite the fucking Linux bullet at that point
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Yep, I had the same thought. I run Win10 on my desktop and PopOS on my laptop; I plan to keep running Win10 for as long as possible, but if this cloud-based nonsense is the future, I'm not hesitating to also switch my desktop to Linux. This stuff is so ridiculous.
I only own Linux and macOS devices, except for my gaming PC. With Steamdeck and SteamOS I am really hopeful to eliminate this last Windows installation in the next few years.
Can't find the package "bullet", I guess i'll need to google it. Oh, there are dependencies i need to install first. Can't find them via apt though. After three hours of googling I find a forum post from 2008 that describes how to compile the dependency yourself. My question in a Linux forum is already locked because there was a similar question in 1997 in which neither of the commands nor software packages or links even exist anymore. I try compiling myself, but it seems i need another piece of software for that. That thing was abandoned in 2012, replaced by another one, then another one in 2018. It doesn't compile though, no matter what i do. I read somewhere that the whole distribution i use is not up-to-date enough and i need to install a nightly bleeding edge upgrade that contains the needed dependencies. I do. After reboot, my audio doesn't work anymore, the resolution is 500x133, there is smoke coming from my mouse and coffee pouring out of the buttons of my screen. I decide to use a completely different distribution, because the one i chose was for noob losers anyways. Three hours later, after three failed attempts of installing because seemingly i exhaled in the general direction of the USB-stick while it was written, I manage to install the right boot manager so that my windows partition isn't lost in the abyss, install the correct drivers for everything, set the keyboard to german three dozen times so i don't become psychotic when i try to use the terminal, save the princess from the evil lord and provide the village with enough resources that they survive the next winter, i finally open up the terminal to install "bullet".
There are dependencies I need to install first.
I really hope it's different now, but about a decade ago I tried to use Linux for multiple years and I really tried to like it, but it has always been a pain in the ass as soon as you try to set up something that is a little more fringe/advanced like software for music production.
Fuck that! I want to own my OS.
Even signing in with a MS account to "sync" my PC's is something I would never choose to do.
protip: when you install windows 10, disconnect the internet. Then it will say you have to create a local account. No MS account bullshit here. You can't do that on windows 11 though. If you don't have internet, you cna't install windows 11. But if you install windows 10 first using this trick, then upgrade to windows 11, you will still have a local account. Or just use linux.
“We take the Personal out of PC”
that'll be a bigger flop than windows me was
The what?
Windows Millenium Edition - a true success story
Well, Microsoft can fuck the fuck off! First of all, you should own things you paid for. And second, they can't even make Windows Update function reliably. I have no desire to have my OS stop working just because some server isn't responding. No, thank you.
and if your internet is out or shit, you can't even use your computer. I'll pass.
What do you mean? If you're dual-booting Windows and Linux, Windows Update will reliably mess up the bootloader because who wouldnwant to use another OS?
I feel like this is gonna go as well as cloud gaming did. Working directly on a server is great in an office setting, but at home it's just stupid and unnecessary.
man that sucks ass, the only thing that's making me not mainly use linux at this point is gaming compatibility.
majority of games run just fine on linux/proton, some don't but only cause devs are stuckup and won't allow proton in the anti-cheat (destiny, rust, lost ark, to name a few)
Hey, don't you dare talk shit about Rus.. oh that Rust
Most of the games I'd use Windows for I cna run easily and just as well with Proton on Linux (Arch).
You need to enable Proton for each game in the right-click settings but once you do you can sinatll anything.
In fact Irecently played a cracked version fo Hades without using Steam. It just installed and ran using Wine.
Most of the games I'd use Windows for I cna run easily and just as well with Proton on Linux (Arch).
You need to enable Proton for each game in the right-click settings but once you do you can sinatll anything.
In fact Irecently played a cracked version fo Hades without using Steam. It just installed and ran using Wine.
I am familiar with using proton and playing on linux and it's nearly perfect. Only problem is some anti-cheats not being compatable and devs not making progress on fixing those issues.
Eh no thank you.
at what point are we customers going to revolt and demand ownership rights over things we pay for? I pay $300 for a copy of some software I don't own and won't even install after a certain amount of time? I have to submit to forced updates that break functionality I rely on, but any feedback I give is ignored? I'm not allowed to resell games I've finished and no longer want or need in my collection?
I have an expensive computer, but all the processing happens "in the cloud"?
Fuck this.
yea... i think windows 10 will be my last windows. otoh, i've been spending more of my time on linux now. subtantially more than windows.
I'll pass, I like owning my own PC
So we are back to the good old UNIX days when all we own were terminals and actual computers were mainframes online? /s
I can't even imagine how that would even work other than being blocked out of access without uninterrupted Internet connection. "Oh, your Internet provider shit themselves? Too bad. You get nothing."
Any idea of how this will sit with government organizations and colleges/universities?
I believe in Canada most (if not all) provinces and even post secondary institutions have data policies that don't allow most cloud services since they can't guarantee data isn't being stored or processed in a data center outside it's borders.
There are some exceptions for the use of OneDrive, but we are prohibited from storing any sensitive data there. Other cloud based apps are hosted on a proprietary instance, but I'm not sure if this option will be available in this case.
I believe Microsoft already offers a government specific version of Azure, so government agencies are already leveraging their cloud infrastructure. I assume that this wouldn't be any different, save for air-gapped systems, obviously.
There will be a market for this, but it's going to be a slow burn. They're not going to convert a lot of people for general use. Even business utility is limited because of the risk of internet outages and travel. That said, many businesses do mandate full-time VM use, so it's clearly something for which companies have an acceptance. The benefit to the consumer is really cheap hardware, great battery life, and theoretically unlimited processing power. In other words, the most powerful gaming machine in the world in form of an ultra-thin laptop which lasts 30 hours on battery for $500.
It's not for me, but I can see the appeal. There is huge risk that Microsoft captures too large an audience and jacks up their subscription prices. That would be a bad future.
More and more what I buy gets turned into a brick if I'm offline. Ugh.
We've had decent desktop versions of Linux for 15 years and users getting upset about Windows then threatening to move elsewhere. The song remains the same.
In another 15 years they'll want to keep a cloud based version of Windows but have it hooked into your brain. The song will remain the same.
People will complain but they'll still use Windows. Because a crack addiction is tough to kick.
Remind me of this post in 15 years so I can say I told you so.
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