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U.S. and international media outlets are repeating unsubstantiated claims that Palestinian fighters "beheaded" babies. These unverified assertions aren't just sloppy journalism — they are being used to justify a massacre.


One story has been dominating the U.S. and international media cycle for the past 24 hours. It has been repeated by pro-Israel activists, Israeli government officials, reporters, and anchors throughout the U.S. media and even alluded to by the President. The thing is — this story has not been confirmed in any way. It appears to come from a single source with a history of espousing calls for genocidal violence against Palestinians.

You have probably heard the story that Hamas fighters beheaded 40 Israeli children in the Kfar Aza community near Gaza. This story can be traced back to an article by Bel Trew, a reporter for The Independent. Trew entered Kfar Aza on October 10, soon after the Israeli army, and reported on Twitter that gunfire erupted just as they arrived. She is told by a member of the Israeli military that children were beheaded, but the article notes, “The Independent did not see evidence of this.”

The military source of this claim is Major David Ben Zion. According to his Twitter bio, he is the Deputy Head of the settler leadership organization, the Samaria Regional Council, and a member of the Board of Directors of the National Fund for Israel, a quasi-governmental agency used to acquire land in Palestine that is then made available exclusively for use by the Israeli state.

In this video clip, Ben Zion speaks directly to the camera. He says the soldiers found children with their heads cut off. He is incorrectly named on-screen in the video but is correctly named in the description below the video on YouTube.

In addition to his role in settler leadership, Ben Zion has a history of calls to genocidal violence.

Earlier this year, Israeli settlers carried out a so-called “reprisal attack” on the Palestinian village of Huwwara after an unknown Palestinian gunman killed two Israeli settlers. As we reported at the time, Israeli settlers launched a ‘pogrom’ on the night of February 26, attacking Palestinian homes and property in Huwwara, Burin, and across the Nablus area, burning houses, cars, vandalizing property, and assaulting Palestinians.

read more: https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/there-is-no-proof-palestinian-fighters-beheaded-babies-the-only-source-is-a-radical-settler/

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[–] jordanlund 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Just a reminder that the last time we heard stories about people murdering innocent babies, it was complete bullshit. Keep your grains of salt handy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

"In her testimony, Nayirah claimed that after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, remove the incubators and leave the babies to die.

Her story was initially corroborated by Amnesty International, a British-based global NGO, which published a report about the supposed killings[3] and testimony from evacuees. Following the liberation of Kuwait, reporters were given access to the country. An ABC report found that "patients, including premature babies, did die, when many of Kuwait's nurses and doctors ... fled" but Iraqi troops "almost certainly had not stolen hospital incubators and left hundreds of Kuwaiti babies to die."[4] Amnesty International USA reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement".[5]"

Edit This mass beheading story also now appears to be bullshit:

"Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded in Hamas attack"

Source:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html

"CNN has pored through hundreds of hours of media posted online attempting to corroborate accounts of atrocities committed by Hamas. In one video, which CNN determined to be authentic but has not been able to geolocate, an assailant attacks an injured man with a garden tool in an attempt to behead him. But CNN has not seen anything that would appear to confirm the claims of decapitated children.

CNN also visited the ransacked ruins of Kfar Aza on Tuesday and saw no evidence of beheaded youths. Israeli officials have not released any photographs of the incident either."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that Kuwaiti story came to mind when I read the story about 40 children in a community of 160 people.

[–] jordanlund 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, the math does work out... 160 people minus 40 kids = 120 adults or 60 couples.

40 kids on 60 couples seems very plausible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also if people gave a shit to read the claim was 40 kids dead SOME beheaded.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who cares? Facts are so last century. Who tells the best lie the loudest wins. Isn't that what you all wanted when you started rewarding media with clicks for the most rage-inducing bullshit instead of paying to actually get informed?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The guy was called Ben ZION? That sounds like bad fiction.

Edit: I know this name is propably very common in Israel.

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[–] RizzRustbolt 24 points 1 year ago

When Haaretz starts walking back accusations against the Palestinians, then you know they have to be bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Bothsides people aren't going to care if this is real or not. They've already decided which side they're on, everything else is a means to an end.

[–] okamiueru 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude... Have some faith in the ability for critical thought? Most people are idiots, but the truth really matters to the rest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every time I open up my message notifications, any hope I have of good faith on this website is reset to zero.

I wake up and check my notifications and half of them are removed and I check the modlogs to see, for good reason.

[–] okamiueru 10 points 1 year ago

Hang in there. Critical thought, measured skepticism, and a desire to learn and understand before speaking, are all very quiet compared to what you encounter on public forums. Doesn't mean it isn't there.

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[–] hightrix 19 points 1 year ago

And no one anywhere was (should have been) surprised.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Which crazy "media" sources are saying this?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago
[–] joelthelion 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't understand why it makes such a difference whether the killed babies were beheaded. Isn't killing innocent babies bad enough?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it matters a lot if a group of people summarily executed 40 babies intentionally, there is a huge difference between civilian casualties in an attack and the intentional targeting of children in an attack and I think you would have to be pretty naive not to know there is a big difference between those two things, civilian deaths are inherently bad, but intentionally targeting children attaches an indescribable evil to the actions, which I'm guessing is the point of why this story circulated, and I would be very surprised if anything remotely similar to Hamas beheaded 40 children turns out to be the truth

[–] joelthelion 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Intentional killing of civilians, including children, seems to be a well-established fact at this stage.

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[–] firadin 7 points 1 year ago

Then why lie about beheadings?

[–] ki77erb 6 points 1 year ago

I think it is important that we separate fact from fiction. That being said, I do agree that just the fact that children were murdered in any manner is abhorrent. That goes for both Israeli and Palestinian children. Innocent blood is on the hands of multiple people/groups/nations... and it is unacceptable. We have to mentally separate groups like Hamas from the populations they live amongst because they are not the same. After all, not all Americans are Proud Boys or Oath Keepers and not all citizens support the actions of the governments they live under.

[–] okamiueru 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If your question is genuine. Then the answer is pretty obvious to me at least, and I'm glad i can help you out here. The point of these kind of lies is to dehumanise your enemy. When Israel then goes ahead and kills a much larger number of babies, it's easier to sell why they "had to do this".

"Wtf are you talking about you piece of shit, Israel has done no such thing", I imagine some thinking. Well..... Historically they've killed Palestinian children at a rate of 20:1. But, what about these 40 cases who are still without any proof (smell test: there is likely none, or it would've surfaced day 1). Aaaannnnd, how many are estimated dead in Gaza bombings the past days? 1400 Palestinians, in a defacto prison where half are children.

"Yeah... But they had it coming. Because I'm emotionally riled up by the animalistic brutal acts done by beheadi.... Hmm... Ah, I see"

Clears it up for you?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Like the settlers who were kicking palestinians from their homes and literally taking possession of these houses? 109 and it was never your fault?

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