Users Have Had It With Reddit...But Are Powerless : reddit

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t think users are powerless. All these shenanigans are hurting Reddit, otherwise they wouldn’t be trying so hard to shut it down.

I think it might feel like that because Reddit made a sadly rare good decision in deciding to stay quiet and out of the press, as it casts doubt on how effective dissent is.

But it’s clear from the continued pressure on mods and the fairly drastic action to arrest the nsfw trend that the fallout is way worse than they anticipated and they’re just doing damage control.

It’s working, keep at it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

They can stay out of the press, but they have to keep acting if they want to salvage anything of their site and those actions will be of a strike-breaking nature likely to generate press on their own.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was any research made for this video?
Cleary there wasn't.

There are more apps for Reddit than Apollo
The protest didn't stop after 48h, is still going
Admins forces subreddits to re-open
Subreddits mods where replaced
Subsreddits change tactics to protest
There's a bunch of more apps for Android than there are for iOS
Didn't mention what subreddit was u/spez moderator in 2008

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I agree.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

Slashdot was becoming too toxic, I moved to reddit.

Reddit wants me to use their obnoxious app, I moved to Lemmy.

Reddit is a business. If they can survive doing what they see fit, good for them.

I moved on. Life goes on.

[–] Kroxx 8 points 2 years ago

Consumers are never powerless, if a company does something shitty you don't like with their product stop using the product. Companies are always tied to profitability, they will always try to maximize profits and milk it's users as far as they can without losing them. If consumers fought back with their dollars by not consuming, then companies would stop. If 60% of reddit stayed blackout untill the change was cancelled, spez would have to give in. That's why there is so much effort to fragment everyone, it's the only to stop the majority from realizing the power they hold.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think that's a pretty half baked take, I mean, were here lmao. Users aren't "powerless" at all, people are free to visit other websites.

[–] berkeleyblue 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We talk again on July 1st.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I am waiting for that day..

[+] [email protected] -55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why did you feel the need to call someone that though? Not sure there is any need.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

"I did something pointlessly mean and insensitive, but that's not important! I experienced repercussions that I feel were undeserved! I demand justice (but only for me, not for anyone else)!"

I get what you're trying to say, but you're choosing a rather tactless way to say it. Point is, that community is run by moderators who are exercising their right to ban you based on your choice of speech. You could send the moderators of the community a DM, apologize, and try to sort it out, but instead you're coming here to complain, which is... definitely not going to solve the problem.

Alternately, start your own AskLemmy community elsewhere. If enough people disagree with those moderator decisions, they can come and participate in yours, instead. That, really, is the benefit of Lemmy over Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago

It's directly in the rules of the sidebar, and you violated them. Lemmy isn't an unmoderated space. It's a space where you can engage where you pick the moderation style you're interested in. What you experienced wasn't censorship, it was the repercussions of your own actions

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I mean, being vulgar and flaming people is just sorta proving the point of why you got banned, if anything. I wouldn't really say you're making a good case for yourself here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I get you're coming at this from a free speech angle, but yeah, I don't think flaming is helpful. With more users, and more experienced mods, I think this issue will reduce and you'll be able to offend more people with less pushback 😂

[+] [email protected] -28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you're calling someone a retard, but the point isn't specifically to offend people?

....

Maybe it's time for you to learn that it's not your intentions that count, but your actions. And your action in this case is definitely offending someone because they don't agree with you.

The proper response would be to just say why, in your opinion, both sides are the same isn't the case, and why you think it's a bad take on the situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I'm the offending commenter, the "victim" of @Antik's antics. I certainly took no personal offense to a stranger calling me a silly name on the internet, but I do agree that such actions should not be normalized, simply because ad hominem attacks add nothing to a conversation and only serve to derail what could otherwise be a healthy discussion.

So, @Antik, I don't agree that you should've been banned, but you clearly showed an unwillingness to have an honest, open discussion, and that is most likely why you were hit with the banhammer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your edit only proves even more that you have worms for brains

Also this instance doesn't have downvotes. it's just nobody is upvoting you at all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their instance does have downvotes. They're on the lemmy.ml demo server, which has basically every single feature enabled

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't have a downvote button tho

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is here on Beehaw get the features enabled on Beehaw, regardless if the poster’s instance has ones not enabled here. So you wouldn’t get downvotes over on here. But lemmy.ml has then it seems. You may even have downvotes over there that you wouldn’t know about here! Fedi is weird sometimes…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

They're on Lemmy.one which also doesn't do down votes. But all around, good description of how a federated voting system can be odd

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Your instance is Lemmy.one. Lemmy.one doesn't do downvotes

[–] ritswd 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think in that mod’s head, it was the point.

I mean no disrespect, but your comments come across as you having some anger management issues. I can see how someone could worry that it might be to the point of being ready to take everything down with you.

I would say that the use of needlessly aggressive language is a part of it. I don’t particularly associate it with free speech (assuming that you do) since it doesn’t relate to an opinion you’re expressing with it; but it would occur to me as a mod that this anger could be a threat to keeping the community healthy for longer. The pointlessly aggressive comments is something that I personally don’t miss from Reddit.

Anyway, Lemmy is decentralized, so you’re free to start your own instance/community who may be joined by other like-minded users who may not read into it what I’m reading into it. I don’t know you, and I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

You got band for being an asshole on an instance that doesn't allow assholes. I'm not really seeing the parallel.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You sound like a trumper.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This adds nothing to the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They need to be called out, wherever they are.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You have made an assumption on the poster, and then called him out over your assumption. If you think trumpers need to be called out, why not wait for him to say something about Trump? If you have a legitimate criticism of what he has said in this discussion, why not bring that up?

I assume you are a racist, and that makes me angry. How could you? /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Did I ever say OP is one? I said they sound like one due to their behavior.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

The purpose of mods is to tell people like you to learn how to behave. Of course you won't like it. But I do.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

I mean calling someone an r-slur and then being what sounds like a free-speech absolutist would get you banned from any instance I would run without hesitation.

Luckily for you, you can start your own instance and call people whatever names you want. Sounds powerful to me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

The real difference is that there are no "admins" who control the whole thing.

Mods will be the same mostly I expect.

[–] MothBookkeeper 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe you shouldn't have called someone a tard boy? Sorry, are you trying to say you're the victim here...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

What did he say?