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As the questioning of witnesses continued this morning at former President Donald Trump trial in New York where he is accused of "numerous acts of fraud and misrepresentation" to inflate Trump's net worth while lowering his tax burden, Judge Arthur Engoron issued an order outlining the next steps to dissolve Trump's companies.

Last week, Engoron found that Trump and his adult sons used fraudulent documents to conduct business and ordered the cancellation of his business certificates. Trump appealed that ruling yesterday.

In today's order, Engoron asks the defendants to provide a list of "entities controlled or beneficially owned by Donald J. Trump" and the other co-defendants to the Hon. Barbara S. Jones, the independent monitor overseeing Trump's business activities. Trump is also required to notify Jones of any news business applications or changes to preexisting entities.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

If this keeps up I will no longer need to eat. I will be solely nourished by this delicious schadenfreude

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In today’s order, Engoron asks the defendants to provide a list of “entities controlled or beneficially owned by Donald J. Trump”

So, Trump, who is incapable of telling the truth, has to truthfully report what businesses belong to him in New York?

He can't do that. Not without lying. And then if he lies, he faces more charges.

Good. He earned this in spades.

[–] Nurse_Robot 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Inb4 nothing happens. Because nothing ever happens. I was hopeful 6 years ago, I'm broken now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

His New York based companies are up for chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation, that pretty much means gone and dusted, at least that's based on YouTube lawyer recent video. Legaleagle

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the link what a great breakdown. I knew it was bad for him but it's so much worse than I thought!

[–] sylver_dragon 2 points 1 year ago

The caveat is that this all holds up on appeal. I hope it does but, this would hardly be the first time he's managed to escape accountability.

[–] Nobody 21 points 1 year ago

The absolute best thing that can happen is for trump to panic and start grabbing whatever insurance policy money he’s hidden with the Russian mafia.

The microscope up trump’s ass will give hard evidence of where their money is hidden. Putin and his friends’ money.

[–] JeeBaiChow 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not familiar with us law, but why wouldn't the IRS have this record?

[–] kautau 9 points 1 year ago

Money flows through many holes to avoid the IRS knowing about it. It’s part of the reason why things like offshore tax havens are so successful. Companies work very hard to make sure their profits are hidden, trump is no different

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crypto bro, here. You can avoid the IRS.

Trump, maybe not but someone he hired could technically funnel cash through privacy coins like Monero to hide it elsewhere.

Trump is also very likely to own this eth address.

It's fairly possible that Trump is hiding decent amounts of cash on blockchains. Almost guaranteed, actually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That wouldn't surprise me since WSB and The_Donald used an identical playbook to grift an identical demographic and it also wouldn't surprise me if the same group of sleazy people seeded both of them.

[–] DreddNYC 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The more important implication of this order is that he’ll have to disclose who his foreign investors are.

[–] Dlayknee 13 points 1 year ago

He's supposed to. Given his track-record, I wouldn't be surprised if he flat-out omits the almost certain skeletons in his investor closet. If the prosecution can catch him in one of those lies however, there could be fireworks...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hey Judge Engoron, you need a list of which Trump businesses? how many of his "businesses" are getting flushed down a toilet?

Judge Engoron...